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#1 Vegetable Fried Rice

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 02:53 AM

This just pop up in my head, and was wondering if it's possible or not?

#2 nolga

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 02:59 AM

I would say NO!!!! Since glue cant conduct electricity. I might be wrong but i dont think so since im shure people have tried it before and were unsuccesfull. SO if i were you i would not do it and spend some money and get it installed by a pro and make shure you tell him to use solder heheh smile.gif.

#3 shanafan

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:03 AM

QUOTE (Vegetable Fried Rice @ Sep 8 2003, 11:53 PM)
This just pop up in my head, and was wondering if it's possible or not?

Not super glue, but you can use some hot glue over the hole with the wire. Keeps it in place better.

A lot of people use hot glue to keep the wires in place along the motherboard.

Edited by shanafan, 09 September 2003 - 03:03 AM.


#4 Vegetable Fried Rice

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:12 AM

well..shouldn't it still work as long as the wire touching the lpc?

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:13 AM

QUOTE (Vegetable Fried Rice @ Sep 9 2003, 12:12 AM)
well..shouldn't it still work as long as the wire touching the lpc?

If its soldered correctly and working. You can't just line it up without solder and put some glue over it.

Here is an idea (credit to Xeero's work)
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Edited by shanafan, 09 September 2003 - 03:15 AM.


#6 Ozzyrulz

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:19 AM

is that a playstation motherboard?

dam thats a lot of soldering..

LOOKS LIKE FUN muhaha.gif

#7 Xeero

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:28 AM

A member recently asked me in a PM if it would be possible to hold wires in place with glue instead of solder. To save myself some typing, here is my response:
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I would HIGHLY recommend AGAINST it. Obviously with hot glue you'd have to glue the wire RIGHT up against the point. When waiting for solder to cool, the wire can separate from the point a bit and the solder will still conduct electricity. It will take MUCH longer for the glue to cool and if the wire separates from the contact even by a tiny bit there will be no continuity.

Also, you'll be using much larger amounts of glue, it would be quite easy to pull up nearby globs of glue. Also if you pull too hard, you may rip off a nearby surfacemount, which will be much more difficult to replace than the soldering which you're trying to avoid.


On a sidenote, I use the glue on my PS2 installs for purposes of wire management; to hold the wires in a fixed position to keep it neat. It's easy to let 23 or 24 wires get messy, and managing them is key to a good install. I keep the glue as far away from the actual install points as possible. Say I need to go back and resolder something. Having to resolder THROUGH the glue would be messy as sin, and if I pull up the glue near the points I risk pulling up nearby wires, which may pull up nearby pads, traces, etc.

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 03:53 AM

I have a friend who used "arctic silver" thermal epoxy. It has a VERY high silver content and is conductive. But it is important to remember that being epoxy, it is not removable by any means known to man.

I myself wouldn't try it unless it was a "spare" xbox, but it seems to work for him!

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:24 AM

QUOTE (shanafan @ Sep 8 2003, 08:13 PM)
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Damn! That's some gorgeous work. I remember some wank trying to tell me that soldering isn't an art, and hot glue on a mobo is a "stupid" idea. Nice to see such a stellar rebuttal of an ignorant statement! Simply elegant! beerchug.gif

Edited by Intelligoth, 09 September 2003 - 06:32 AM.


#10 Noodlez

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:28 AM

used the glue stuff from a rear window defroster kit to fix a broken trace on mine instead of solder

#11 TIAGM3

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:30 AM

Go ahead and try and super glue it, let us kow how it works tongue.gif

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 07:59 AM

I wouldn't use super glue for the LPC port coz it just wouldn't work. I'd use it for the disable switch wire that connects to the motherboard. Thats like the gayest to solder coz its soo tiny! just put the wire onto of the point and put glue on it. It should work ok...

#13 Xeero

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 10:33 AM

I'm not saying it won't work. I'm simply stating it's not nearly as reliable. If it works, then great. If it comes loose in a month, well, such is life.

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Posted 09 September 2003 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (Xeero @ Sep 9 2003, 12:33 PM)
If it comes loose in a month

I think you missed the key word here. 'Super' glue. lol... but nah super glue can hold like a tonne of weight with like one drop or so they say...




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