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#1 AkumAPRIME

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 08:20 PM

A trace is just like a built in wire, right? This is the first time Ive fucked up while modding, and I'm hoping to just solder the two points where the trace went, in order to fix it. Please tell me this is possible. Thanx

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#2 xboxistheshiznit

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 08:41 PM

yep, just scrape off the coating on each end of the lifted trace (the metal), and if your skilled enough, solder a very small wire to each end of the trace, and *BAM* fixed trace

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 08:58 PM

I guess I dont have the skillz, cuz the wires wont take.
As for scraping, they are already sort of "holey", IE it snot the shiny silver holes that now lack continuity, its the small little "O"'s, if that makes any sense. The solder just wont stick to it.!!! Any hints anyone. I would LOVE to fix this shit right now! andnot pay someone else to help me!

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thanx shiznit BTW

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 09:15 PM

Did you try using car window defroster repair stuff? It goes on like paint but is conductive. rolleyes.gif

#5 AkumAPRIME

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 09:47 PM

well now my friend soldered the trace in, despite his shakey ass fuggin hands. AND theres NO fragging!!! YAYAYAY right? Wrong! now theres no audio/video!

wtf?

anyone ever experience anyhting like this? argh

much love

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 09:49 PM

Sometimes a trace is simply like a wire, and sometimes not.

The difference of when lies with what kind of signal was on that trace. If the trace was for the DDR ram then those traces are impedance matched (which means they all have the same inductance) and phase matched (which means they are EXACTLY the same length). Traces like that can’t be simply replaced. The car defroster stuff (and related silver bearing trace repair paint) may work, but will not carry enough current to replace a power line. With all that said for clarification, go ahead and try the wire, you have nothing to lose. smile.gif

As to the “small little O’s”, those are called VIAs and you can scrape and solder the backside of the board as well. Just make damn sure you have the right one. It is very easy to get confused when looking at the back side of a board covered with vias and trying to get it right.

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 09:49 PM

which trace is it?
Pic?

#8 AkumAPRIME

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 09:51 PM

I cant supply a pic, but its the point under the Alternative D0 point on a 1.2 xbox. The D0 point is the third lil' dot, and the trace beneath it is lifted. We followed it to its origins. Now my friend seems to have fixed it to somedegree, we dont get fragging anymore. BUT, now we get no AV. So go figure. WEre ready to throw it acorss the street!!!

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 10:01 PM

If you're going to throw it I'll catch smile.gif

This was the DO trace that was lifted?
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#10 AkumAPRIME

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 10:23 PM

What about the AV problem? Why would it stop fragging but stop displaying Audio/video?

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#11 AkumAPRIME

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Posted 20 October 2003 - 10:31 PM

No. the trace under the alternate D0 point, on the back O' the mobo is the lifted one


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Posted 21 October 2003 - 02:34 PM

you're going to have to do better than that, I only have a 1.0 box so I can't just compare and look for it. . .
Seriously though, yea it could stop fraggen and still have plowed video if you're screwing witht the connextant chip.
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Posted 19 December 2003 - 11:20 AM

Dude I think you soldered the wrong d0, For my 1.0 box it is the 4rth one over, right? I think the 1.2 version has the same d0.

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 01:46 PM

post a pic if you can. that would be very helpful

as for making solder stick, use flux.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 05:13 PM

you just gotta resolder every point on your modchip. One of the connections is not soldered properly so it will give the green orange flashing light error.

So, take the modchip off the board, and resolder.




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