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#1 tazkmar

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Posted 29 July 2002 - 06:09 AM

OK I have evo-x loaded in bios now and by backups work fine. Now I'm trying to upgrade the hard drive. I have a WD 120 gb drive (WD1200BBRTL) 7200rpm. I have low level zero'd out the drive and used winhex to see all the zero's. I changed address as follows.

0x8ca80000 4641545840f0484d2000000001
0xabe80000 4641545850d2154d2000000001

then I loaded it on the xbox.
booted off of the evo-x CD

followed the following cmds

C drive
Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\1 # to get the key
FormatDrive xxxxxxxxx # xxxx is the key

E drive
Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\2 # to get the key
FormatDrive xxxxxxxxx # xxxx is the key

F drive
Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\6 # to get the key
FormatDrive xxxxxxxxx # xxxx is the key

( by the way when I formated the drives it was a very quick process is that normal? )

I then ftp'd my original C Drive and E Drive back to the new hard disk.

then booted.

I was really looking forward to some smooth sailing. NOT.
I could only get the original msdashboard. Strange since I doubled checked the xboxdash.xbe file and the size matches the evo-x version.

So now I have xbox booting with new hd install but it appears not to be working. I then proceeded to verify the C and E files and resent them to make sure.

Now I have a big mess on the Hard disk because it started writing all kinds of weird file names on it. I had to load it back in windows and zero out the darn thing again. Followed the above procedure again and the exact same problem exists. I'm now running a low level format to zero the drive out again. 13+ hours.

Please offer some advice.



#2 Jaboo

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Posted 29 July 2002 - 10:06 AM

Make absolutely certain that the drive is all 0s, the first one I did wasn't all 0s on the first couple of pages. When you format, it is real quick, that's normal. Make sure you type in the exact case with the key it gives you. Try try again? I followed your exact same procedure twice with no problems....Good Luck

#3 tazkmar

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Posted 29 July 2002 - 01:39 PM

One of the other things is that I only used the diagnostic tools to write all zero's to the disk. In windows I did absolutely nothing. I didn't go into disk management and add it or nothing.

In winhex I just choose the disk tools and choose the drive by its 05h address and went to the specified address's to modify them.

Is that correct.

#4 WiKKiD

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Posted 29 July 2002 - 04:39 PM

Not to doubt your winhex skills, but to ENSURE there's no problems (ie: a typo), I would HIGHLY suggest you 0 out your drive, then use the xbox hdd preparer to create your partitions for you..

Once you've done that, throw the drive in the xbox, format EVERY partition (some say you don't need to, but for the extra 15 seconds it takes, it's worth it).. (if you don't believe me, dump some files to c pre-format and see what happens...)

The format for every partition other than f will be instant... And for some drives (f,x,y) they will be 0 beforehand and their proper size afterwards.. F drive took me about 5 seconds to format (160gb hdd), so expect a minor delay when formatting it, that's a good sign...



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Posted 29 July 2002 - 07:26 PM

I think the xbox hdd preparer would be a nice tool. however , I haven't seen it or read about it. any additional info would be great.

#6 mvdzwaan

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Posted 29 July 2002 - 08:21 PM

You could not find the HD Preparer ?!?!?!?

http://www.xbox-scen...tools/scene.php

The symptons you've described look similar to what I experienced. In my case it had nothing to do with completely nulling the drive (tried it on 3 HD's and all 3 never needed to be nulled completely)

After formatting, make sure to reset your xbox once, make sure flashfxp does not cache, and only then upload your c: and e:



#7 tazkmar

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 01:58 AM

OK I used the HD Preparer now and I still have the same problem. In winhex the drive had 000000000 ....
I used HD Preparer for the first 4096 to set the FATX entries.

Once I loaded the drive I first formated e:\ then C:\ then F:\ ( F:\ was still just as fast as the other two. )

I still had the problem with recursive directory entries on the E: drive.
C: worked fine.

When creating a directory on F nothing. no entry shows up and garbage directories show up on E.

I am able to boot the box up now with this hard disk. I just can't see the F drive.

I also reflashed the bios with v2.2 again. Just in case.

any thoughts are welcome.

#8 tazkmar

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 02:04 AM

this is the output from ' hddinfo '

hddinfo

.Disk Info for 'c:\'
.Disk Size 446.955.520
.ClusterSize 16384
.SectorSize 512
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.Disk Info for 'e:\'
.Disk Size 5.103.452.160
.ClusterSize 16384
.SectorSize 512
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.Disk Info for 'f:\'
.Disk Size 5.103.452.160
.ClusterSize 0
.SectorSize 0
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.Disk Info for 'x:\'
.Disk Size 5.103.452.160
.ClusterSize 0
.SectorSize 0
.

.Disk Info for 'y:\'
.Disk Size 786.300.928
.ClusterSize 16384
.SectorSize 512
.

.Disk Info for 'z:\'
.Disk Size 786.300.928
.ClusterSize 16384
.SectorSize 512
.
200 OK

notice F: ?? dang thing just doesn't want to give up the disk space.


#9 tazkmar

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 05:08 AM

Even more info.
I just tried the exact same thing with a different hard drive.
First drive was a Western Digital 120gb, 2nd drive was a Seagate 80gb.

In the final setup for each drive I used the HD Preparer to set the drive up.

Both drives act the exact same. In fact other posts are starting to pop up with the same problem. Recursive directories.

Any clue, is there a potential that we need to configure the drives differently on newer machines? I just purchased mine.



#10 tazkmar

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 06:05 AM

more info for that daring person willing to help

For shits and grins I tried to install one of the two drives on a xbox that did not have it's bios updated and it wouldn't boot period. So that just about tells me that my box is flashed with the evo-x bios.

Now it lies in a problem with getting the drives to work correctly.

#11 tazkmar

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 10:10 PM

ah come on, anyone! give a dog a bone will ya.


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Posted 30 July 2002 - 10:37 PM

i take it you have disabled your chip and are not running evox 2.2 bios and your modchip together.

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 11:30 PM

Very strange..

I would guess that it's a problem with your bios... But if you say you flashed again with evo-x 2.2... You've got me stumped here..

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Posted 31 July 2002 - 08:46 AM

I think i know what your problem is and its down to your formatting.
you must format partition c first which is partiton 2 and not partition 1
next do e which is partition 1 and then format f which is partition 6.
i think you have been formatting c as partition 1 and for some reason it
messes up drive e.
Hope this helps.

#15 tazkmar

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Posted 31 July 2002 - 09:03 AM

Oh my god! my bumper sticker says, *** dumb ass on board ***

when I first tried to format the drives I must have type'd partition incorrectly. Although, at the time I figured I didn't need the partition word and only needed the #. So my command was

formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\1 <---- BIG TIME WRONG

Every time, each time having to zero out the drive, very time consuming. However, the formatpath and formatdrive cmds reported successful every time.

For whatever reason this time I tried the same cmd with the partition in the line such as


formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1

Thanks for your help it all led to the fix.









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