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#1 Cathesdus

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:41 PM

Thanks for at least reading my post. Here's what I'm thinking:

I found some old windows 3.1 disks lying around my house and was wondering if I could just take the files and stick them in a folder on my Xbox and then use a dos emu to run windows 3.1. Here are some questions though that I have about this:

1)Xbox uses fatx file format. Will Windows 3.1 support this even through the dos Emulator?

2)Can this cause any permanent damage? I mean by just booting it, not by like goin into format options and screwing it up myself.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:12 PM

I've heard that someone already triend this but couldn't get it to work in dosXbox.

Edited by m.e, 08 September 2004 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2004 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Cathesdus @ Sep 6 2004, 09:44 PM)
Thanks for at least reading my post. Here's what I'm thinking:

I found some old windows 3.1 disks lying around my house and was wondering if I could just take the files and stick them in a folder on my Xbox and then use a dos emu to run windows 3.1. Here are some questions though that I have about this:

1)Xbox uses fatx file format. Will Windows 3.1 support this even through the dos Emulator?

2)Can this cause any permanent damage? I mean by just booting it, not by like goin into format options and screwing it up myself.

why dont you try it and post up what happens smile.gif

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Posted 13 September 2004 - 06:49 PM

use bochs, i have windows 95 running under bochs and it works fine, contact me if you need any help

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 05:18 PM

dude screenshots or link or walkthru on how to do it man!!!

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Posted 15 September 2004 - 02:06 PM

there's a tut on how to use 95 in bochs i think but you really don't want it. it's slow as hell.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 06:50 PM

huh.gif OMG have you ever ran 3.11...? You have to manually load all the drivers, and good luck trying to find one that works for the XBOX CD drive... Plus it didn't include Internet Explorer, so you will have to make the CD drive work before you can load it. However if I remember right windows 3.11 has the ability to connect manually to a FTP (or IP) address so you could download it. dry.gif I think you would be better off creating a windows look-alike theme for linux and running that. OR, just take the insides out completely and put a footprint PC motherboard in and rewire all the ports to the case. What a way to win the 'Maximum PC Mod of the Month' contest tongue.gif and clear cases are sold too. It would be hard to load 3.11 with a platform that is not Xi86 based (or is it..? II forget too much). 3.11 is just plain historical and loading one on a Xbox would be hysterical laugh.gif !

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 03:15 PM

Running all the drivers manually is a myth, but just like 95, 3.11 is nothing more than a DOS application, kind of like a big emulator. Anyways, I tried getting Windows 3.11 to run on my Xbox using DosXbox and here what happens after my hour or so of running the installer on another computer to extract the files:

I put the files on the Xbox, use dosxbox to navigate into the folder and if you know anything about windows 3.11, I typed win to start it up. It loads up the nice rectangular green Windows 3.11 for workgroups logo and a nice big M$ colorful flying "window" but 3 seconds later it gives me an error about how a device could not be found and I'm booted back to the dos prompt. I would love to try doing this in Bochs but I just recently killed my USB keyboard so now I have to buy another.

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 07:59 PM

Manually loading all the drivers is definately not a myth and I have plenty of experience running it. The term 'manually loading the drivers' is just often misunderstood. Most hardware that came out 10 years after 3.11 won't have drivers loaded in 3.11. So what do you do with a CD-ROM that has no drivers in 3.11? You go to the website and manually download them. Some people think manually downloading them means doing it at the MS-DOS prompt using an FTP address but this doesn't have to be done with windows, only DOS. But for those that found 'the new way' didn't work, the old suited them well. However if you don't have Internet Explorer and your CDROM didn't work you needed to download Internet Explorer using an FTP address. And since you seem like an 'Expert' you may know Windows had a handy little utility that downloaded from the FTP address without IE. But, since DOS is emulated it will mean linux is running behind it so loading Internet Explorer from the CDROM or DVDROM should be possible. That is, if you want it loaded. I would just use Mozilla. beerchug.gif

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 09:12 PM

That's manually downloading drivers and putting them in a folder, not loading them into ram for use with an operating system.

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:11 PM

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but just like 95, 3.11 is nothing more than a DOS application


Windows 95 is not a DOS application and is nothing like 3.1; once loaded it takes over management of your hardware completely and is a true operating system.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 02:39 AM

Bangou dude, Windows 95 does use DOS! Try running Windows 95 without having some sort of DOS running, have fun. lol But when Windows 98 came out thats when it was a True OS.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 05:39 AM

Windows 95 is as much an operating system as Windows 98 is; there isn't that much of a difference between them as far as the kernel. They both use a DOS based loader that gets the OS up and running; but once io.sys loads Windows 95 the 32-bit kernel takes over completely. A DOS layer does remain loaded for compatility with old programs, but Windows itself is managing your hardware resources, drivers, etc. Windows 1.01 to 3.11 are just glorified file managers; 16-bit graphical shell programs running in DOS. There's no comparison between them and 95.

Windows 95 is an operating system. smile.gif


Edited by Banquo, 18 October 2004 - 05:43 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2004 - 08:53 AM

Ummm, Not trying to be rude or anything But Win 95 Is a "16 bit" OS, And Is Dos Dependant, That's why When it boots it does all that dos crap and startup scripts.

Step 1, Put a windows 95 CD in your drive and Try to boot from it.
Step 2, Take a look in your autoexec.bat and config.sys in your root of your startup drive, notice all the dos code?
Step 3, Go to the "Exit windows" command, notic how you are slapped in the face with a big "Sack-o-Dos"

The point i am getting at is, Windows 95 is just a glorified version of dos with some bells and whistles added to it.....

Edited by Pyro0623, 07 November 2004 - 08:56 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2004 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (Pyro0623 @ Nov 7 2004, 09:56 AM)
Ummm, Not trying to be rude or anything But Win 95 Is a "16 bit" OS, And Is Dos Dependant, That's why When it boots it does all that dos crap and startup scripts.

Step 1, Put a windows 95 CD in your drive and Try to boot from it.
Step 2, Take a look in your autoexec.bat and config.sys in your root of your startup drive, notice all the dos code?
Step 3, Go to the "Exit windows" command, notic how you are slapped in the face with a big "Sack-o-Dos"

The point i am getting at is, Windows 95 is just a glorified version of dos with some bells and whistles added to it.....

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