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#1 jameswalter

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 02:39 AM

http://slickdeals.ne...8&lno=3&afsrc=1

$30 each....

Add coupon 75729555 and 24650129 for buy 1 get 1 free and $10 off $50.

http://www.videohelp...a=2574#comments says that they are G04

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 10:37 AM

Thanks for the deal reveal jameswalter beerchug.gif

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 10:40 AM

I would be warry of trusting such information. Don't get me wrong, that site is very informative but one review claiming Ritek G04 doesn't mean that all of these 4x Office Depot DVD-R discs are Ritek G04. You could end up with several different manufacturers. I know that Compusa's own line has cycled through a number of different manufacturers (ie Princo, Optodisc), so don't be surprised if you get a spindle of these Office Depot discs and they aren't Ritek G04. Also given the number of B-Grade Ritek G04s that are running around out there, I won't trust a Ritek G04 DVD-R disc unless it carries the Ritek/Ridata label. Indeed if you go on to read the review there it certainly sounds like they aren't the greatest quality discs. I am not saying that this deal is terrible. I am just saying it is misleading to automatically assume that these are Ritek G04s because one person happened to get a batch that contained the Ritek G04 dye. That's kind of like me posting a thread saying 50 pack of Taiyo Yudens for $20 and then posting a link to Fujifilm media. The Fujifilms that are MADE IN JAPAN are almost certainly Taiyo Yuden but that doesn't mean that any spindle of Fujifilm discs are going to be Taiyo Yuden.

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 08:09 PM

0.25 per disk is a pretty good price for riteks. also, it's office depot so they'd probably be willing to take them back if they didn't work for you.

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Feb 3 2005, 04:46 AM)
Also given the number of B-Grade Ritek G04s that are running around out there, I won't trust a Ritek G04 DVD-R disc unless it carries the Ritek/Ridata label.

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All the 4X Maxell DVD-R I've bought at Office Depot in the last month have been Ritek G04. I've had good luck with them. I usually buy Ridata branded bulk online but it was alot cheaper to buy the Maxells because they were on sale. I wonder if Maxell would use a B-Grade Ritek.

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Oh by the way. I bought some 2X Maxell DVD-RW that they had on sale this week. Not sure who makes them. Anyone here have an idea who makes them? This is what DVDINFOPRO has to say.

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 01RW11n9
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD-RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 42 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0E 08 06 .B...@....!.....
00000010 88 85 0D 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 31 00 04 52 57 31 .....MCC 01..RW1
00000020 31 6E 39 00 05 06 88 85 0D 00 00 00 06 10 0B 05 1n9.............

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 10:53 PM

Nevermind the question about who made the Maxell DVD-RW above. For some stupid reason. The board wont let me edit my post again. grr.gif



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Posted 03 February 2005 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(Wong Hung Lo @ Feb 3 2005, 09:37 PM)
All the 4X Maxell DVD-R I've bought at Office Depot in the last month have been Ritek G04. I've had good luck with them. I usually buy Ridata branded bulk online but it was alot cheaper to buy the Maxells because they were on sale. I wonder if Maxell would use a B-Grade Ritek.

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Oh by the way. I bought some 2X Maxell DVD-RW that they had on sale this week. Not sure who makes them. Anyone here have an idea who makes them? This is what DVDINFOPRO has to say.

                            Media Information                           
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                  MCC 01RW11n9
Format Capacity                                                Blank Disc
Free Blocks                                                    411107328
Free Capacity                                              4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type                                                          DVD-RW
Media Type                                                        DVD-RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                  2.0x  2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor                          CLV  2.0x  2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor                          CLV  1.0x  1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed                                        2.0x 2770KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                       
                          Complete Media Code                         
00000000 00 42 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0E 08 06 .B...@....!.....
00000010 88 85 0D 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 31 00 04 52 57 31 .....MCC 01..RW1
00000020 31 6E 39 00 05 06 88 85 0D 00 00 00 06 10 0B 05 1n9.............

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MCC = Mitsubishi Chemical Company

Mitsubishi is used often used by Verbatim
I think good quality discs, however i think jesterrace777 will explain it to you better wink.gif .

EDIT: i havent seen the last post before sending this. sorry.

Edited by marcus905, 03 February 2005 - 10:58 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2005 - 11:51 PM

Yup, MCC=Mitusbishi Chemicals(Verbatim discs are almost always made by these guys). Good stuff, especially if they are made in Singapour. I have had pretty good luck with the MCC DVD-RW discs. @wong, you ended up getting Ritek G04 on the Maxell 4x DVD-R discs? They are all supposed to be TY or MXL dye at this point. Maybe you just got some that have been on the shelf for a long time. Just goes to prove my point though. You never know for sure what you are getting until you get it home and pop it in your drive. It makes sense that Maxell (usually pretty expensive) would use grade A Ritek, I was just pointing out that there are no shortage of B-Grade Ritek discs running around so it really can be a crapshoot when you aren't buying the actual Ritek/Ridata labels. wink.gif Incidentally I got in on that Office Depot special as well and I ended up getting the MXL dye 4x discs, which are supposed to be right up there with Taiyo Yuden. I get the packs home and all 6 packs which I had purchased had spotting in the dye, and some even had fingerprints. I don't care what kind of store special is going on, I won't touch any name brand discs for DVDR media after my experience with multiple packs of Fujifilm and Maxell media.

Edited by jesterrace777, 03 February 2005 - 11:56 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2005 - 11:54 PM

QUOTE(frank10 @ Feb 3 2005, 07:15 PM)
0.25 per disk is a pretty good price for riteks.  also, it's office depot so they'd probably be willing to take them back if they didn't work for you.

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That is if they actually are Riteks. As mentioned above just because one pack happens to be Ritek G04, doesn't mean that all of these 4x Office Depot DVD-R discs are going to be Ritek G04. Also this only works as an online deal. So you will almost certainly have to mail them back if they don't turn out to be Ritek/Don't work. For $200 discs that isn't gonna be cheap no matter how you slice it. Not unless they offer in-store returns for their online orders.

Edited by jesterrace777, 03 February 2005 - 11:56 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2005 - 01:23 AM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Feb 3 2005, 05:57 PM)
@wong, you ended up getting Ritek G04 on the Maxell 4x DVD-R discs?  They are all supposed to be TY or MXL dye at this point.  Maybe you just got some that have been on the shelf for a long time.

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They were not old stock on the shelves. I bought all of their 25 pack spindles they had last month. And I got more last week when they had them on sale. Damn near bought them out this time too. Most of the spindles were 4X but I got a few 8X spindles. I missed out on the 15 pack for $5 deal. This week I got a couple spindles of RW. The media codes on the G04s I bought last week are a little differant than the ones I bought last month. I also got some 8X Maxell last week but I haven't opened them yet. The label says they are made in Japan so I figured that they were the same as the 8X disc I got last month.

Here's the media info on the DVD-R I bought from them.

Maxell 4X DVD-R From Office Depot Dec 26, 2004. Made In Taiwan
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 12
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 19
4x Write Strategy field 1 0A 0B 09 01
4x Write Strategy field 2 99 05 0C 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 96 0E 14 .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 ................


Maxell 8X DVD-R From Office Depot Dec 26, 2004. Made In Japan
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MXL RG03
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0B
2x Write Strategy field 1 15 87 78 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 08
4x Speed OPC power 14
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0C 08
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 07 0E 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 A0 00 20 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 1B 85 56 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 99 BD 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0E 0D .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 4D 58 4C 20 52 47 00 04 30 33 00 .....MXL RG..03.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0B 15 ................


Maxell 4X DVD-R From Office Depot Jan 23, 2005 Made In Taiwan
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 12
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 10 08 09
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 76 0E 14 .l...@....R..v..
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 12 11 ................


#11 jesterrace777

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Posted 04 February 2005 - 02:46 AM

Oh okay. All of the media in my area (at least Maxell) is MIJ, so that makes sense.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Feb 3 2005, 11:00 PM)
That is if they actually are Riteks.  As mentioned above just because one pack happens to be Ritek G04, doesn't mean that all of these 4x Office Depot DVD-R discs are going to be Ritek G04.  Also this only works as an online deal.  So you will almost certainly have to mail them back if they don't turn out to be Ritek/Don't work.  For $200 discs that isn't gonna be cheap no matter how you slice it.  Not unless they offer in-store returns for their online orders.

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Try emailing customer service about this before you order. I could be wrong, but this looks like a regular office depot item, not a tech depot item. only tech depot items are not returnable to local stores.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 08:50 PM

That still wouldn't help any. There could be hundreds of batches of Ritek produced Office Depot discs, and thousands of batches of Office Depot discs that are produced by another manufacturer. Office Depot would do one of two things 1. Quickly find any little blurb of info (ie the one persons findings listed in the link above) 2. Play dumb about who really produces them. So the problem still stands. If Office Depot is as competent as their retail counterparts they wouldn't have the first clue about who actually produces their media. The vast majority of people don't have any idea who really produces the discs. BTW, the point is that you would still have to pay the shipping return fees on these discs which isn't gonna be cheap for 200 of them. This is an online only offer. So even if they do refund your money you are still gonna be shelling out at least $10-$15 to ship them back.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Feb 8 2005, 07:56 PM)
That still wouldn't help any.  There could be hundreds of batches of Ritek produced Office Depot discs, and thousands of batches of Office Depot discs that are produced by another manufacturer.  Office Depot would do one of two things 1. Quickly find any little blurb of info (ie the one persons findings listed in the link above)  2. Play dumb about who really produces them.  So the problem still stands.  If Office Depot is as competent as their retail counterparts they wouldn't have the first clue about who actually produces their media.  The vast majority of people don't have any idea who really produces the discs.  BTW, the point is that you would still have to pay the shipping return fees on these discs which isn't gonna be cheap for 200 of them.  This is an online only offer.  So even if they do refund your money you are still gonna be shelling out at least $10-$15 to ship them back.

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Let me clarify, email or call them to see if you can return these to a local store instead of shipping back, which is the standard office depot policy, except for tech depot items. Of course, even returning to a local store causes wear and tear on your vehicle and uses gas. Let's call that the downside. The upside is getting G04s for $0.25 each, instead of 0.40 and up.



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Posted 08 February 2005 - 11:57 PM

Oh okay. Fair enough. I would still want to know if these are B-Grade Riteks though.




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