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#16 deftonesmx17

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 08:23 PM

Well guys, NOS does not add true HP. A cars horsepower is rated from the peak amount at a certain RPM.
NOS would do nothing for a dyno slip because it would not be the same everytime unless shot at the exact same moment every test.

Example. Sure I can add a wet shot of NOS to my car and say it has 70+ more HP, but it would be a lie. Why............because when the tank becomes empty..............I don't have that 70+ more HP anymnore now do I. wink.gif No, I have my true HP rating.

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 08:31 PM

HP is a theoretical number derived from the formula:

W=F x D

whereas:
W=work
F=force used
D=distance traveled

Horsepower is just a measure of how fast you complete the work. Thus theoretical
i.e.

if a car develops 500 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3500 rpm, it has just made 333.206 hp
if the same car develops 900 ft.-lbs of torque at 4200 rpm, then its horsepower has just inreased to 719.726 hp. Do you honestly think that someone has taken 333.206 or 719.726 horses and used them to get this exact number?

Just had to throw in my $0.02.

#18 rixter110

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 08:41 PM

wow this thread just went right off topic lol rotfl.gif

#19 deftonesmx17

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 08:49 PM

Who cares...............if you want NOS..................play the super duper shitty Gran Turismo 4 laugh.gif

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 09:16 PM

My A** they dont add horsepower, they either create a more combustible mix (NOS) or they add more air into the combustion process both making the combustion more volatile, bigger and faster the combustion the more power you have.

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 09:17 PM

Yea or NFS:U

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 02:44 AM

QUOTE(therealmikeg @ Jun 20 2005, 02:29 PM)
NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP.  They add torque, but whatever.

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no they dont external shit such as nos does not add hp it does not count towards the total hp unless stated such as 500 hp with nos but you can say 500 hp and not have to say supercharger

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 02:58 AM

But on Topic, Its funny how you can put NOS decals and StreetGlow decals but none of thats includeed in the game.

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 03:23 AM

QUOTE(mcnabb06 @ Jun 20 2005, 10:09 PM)
But on Topic, Its funny how you can put NOS decals and StreetGlow decals but none of thats includeed in the game.

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NOS is in the game, just not enabled in the final version, and not sure if it can be made to work. wink.gif

#25 Satorian

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 07:38 AM

Add torque, but not power? huh.gif


Man, what happened to P=2*pi*M*n? Last time I checked it was still valid.... rolleyes.gif

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 01:11 PM

racing stripes add extra 5hp!!!!! tomfg! stupidly over modified cars are shit

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Posted 23 June 2005 - 06:03 AM

Nitrous Oxide is wayyyyy overrated. I'm glad they kept it out of this game. I work with forced induction systems all day at work, and out of all the different systems, Nitrous Oxide is complete crap. Forza is a simulator, not a rice boy fantasy, so it makes sense they left that crap out.

Oh, and FYI:

Nitrous Completely eliminates turbo lag? awesome...what scene from fast and the furious was that from? NOTHING completely eliminates turbo lag.

Nitrous does nothing for Dyno graphs huh? that's funny, i've personally tuned and seen cars make 20-100+ SAE WHP from nitrous. Shot the same time? ever hear of a throttle based microswitch? or maybe a computerized system (i.e. venom?) Yep, bottle empty = no extra power. At the same time, turbo seizes, no extra power. Supercharger belt snaps, no extra power. Sieze ain injector, no extra power. Run out of gas, no extra power. Holy crap, by your logic, NOTHING is power! EVERYBODY's TRUE HP is 0!

The formula to determine horsepower from torque is
(Lbs/Ft x RPM) / 5,252 = Horsepower.

Forced induction systems do add torque. Which is also, based on the formula above, is horsepower.



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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:09 PM

The one thing everybody is forgeting is that nitrous oxide is only practical for drag racing. Since 99% of the game is about racing on other types of tracks, it isn't something that is really needed in the game, especially since the game is supposed to be a simulation. wink.gif

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Posted 24 June 2005 - 05:57 AM

QUOTE(therealmikeg @ Jun 20 2005, 09:29 PM)
NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP.  They add torque, but whatever.

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WTF?!

horsepower = torque x speed/5252 and torque=5252 x horsepower/speed

weird... they're related...

can't have one without the other....

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Posted 24 June 2005 - 08:51 AM

lol 70hp instantly..

nos is horrible.. bad for your engine..
nos is very very ricer

turbo lag? well theres only turbo lag if u cant shift... and have too big of a turbo wink.gif

im exxagerating of course, but nos costs $$$... turbo is like free hp

supercharge if u dont like lag.. fuck nos




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