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#1 lowendfrequency

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:11 PM

So, what's up with this game? It hasn't been released in Japan yet, has it? The release date there was Jan 12th, and supposedly the US date is August 29th but I;m getting the impression that this has been pushed back. Has anyone heard anything?

Also, what's up with the name change. When we first heard of this game it was called [eM:eNCHANT arM]. Did they americanize it or something? Regardless, I'm really excited for this game. It will be the first TRUE rpg on either of the xbox consoles. Others games call themselves rpgs like KOTOR, Elder Scrolls and Fable, but in reality they are action adventure games just like zelda. The term role playing game originally came from shit like D&D and GURPS, so by old school terms an rpg MUST be turn based. Nowadays devs like to call anything with a fantasy theme an rpg. Enchant Arms will be a real-deal, turn based, get your japanese panties in a bunch, no bullshit RPG... and I say it's about time. Graphics are stellar too.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 02:19 AM

It's been out since the beginning of the year in Japan. You can get if for 30 bucks from play-asia if you have a jap 360.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 03:46 AM

QUOTE(Static X @ Jun 14 2006, 09:26 PM) View Post

It's been out since the beginning of the year in Japan. You can get if for 30 bucks from play-asia if you have a jap 360.


Damn, really? Sounds as if it made it's release date. And that means there's a good chance it'll make the US release in august. Thanks for the good news. cool.gif

Does anyone know if there are any reviews of it in english?

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:05 AM

KOTOR IS turn-based. They just automatically roll for initiative for you and use weapon speeds from skills and powers.

It's based on the Star Wars D20 rpg.

everyones an expert... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:34 AM

KOTOR first game was the best one. I wasnt to keen on the KOTOR II.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE(Keshire @ Jun 15 2006, 12:12 AM) View Post

KOTOR IS turn-based. They just automatically roll for initiative for you and use weapon speeds from skills and powers.

It's based on the Star Wars D20 rpg.

everyones an expert... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif


KOTOR is NOT turn based. It is what is called a "probability system". It involves turns, but is not a turn based system because of the fact that you can control when those turns occur. A true turn based RPG plays out like a game of chess, actively changing your tactics based on your enemies moves. But in KOTOR, moves are stacked and the game plays out more like dice. Everyone throws down and you cross your fingers and hope for the best.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 04:24 PM

i love turn based and im really looking forward to enchanted arms.

i thought the battle system in KOTOR was rubbish, i just couldnt get into it at all.

final fantasy, suikoden etc get my vote.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 04:27 PM

so does this mean that grandia isnt a "true" RPG? i loved that series and it was from japan. KOTOR, fable, elders scrolls ARE RPGs but there are different types now. just because something is not turn based does not mean its not an RPG.

I understand what you mean but maybe you should say "japanese RPGs" instead of true RPGs. some look at oblivion as the first "true" RPG as you are playing a living ROLE of a character without the distractions and detours that take you out of the story and the character itself.

its all a matter of opinion is all, i enjoy all types of RPGs and i am very excited to how many are headed to the 360 (mistwalker games are top of the RPG list).

as far as reviews, i dont know about american reviews but i do know it faired well in famitsu. im rather excited about this game as well, and yes the name has been americanized so that it is understood easier.

im curious to how they handled the gay character in the game, i wouldnt be surprised if they changed him a bit.

Edited by KAGE360, 15 June 2006 - 04:32 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE(amb7247 @ Jun 15 2006, 04:41 AM) View Post

KOTOR first game was the best one. I wasn't to keen on the KOTOR II.


that's because KOTOR II wasn't made by Bioware wink.gif

The name of this game has always been Enchanted Arms the english title was modified slightly to make more sense to a Japanese audience. If you watch the trailer on the XBLM it makes more sense.

I think the game looks really good, my GF who is a rabid RPG fan is really excited for it. 1up.com got an early copy of the Japanese version and did nothing but complain about how bad they thought it looked huh.gif They compared it to Grandia III on the PS2 and said THAT looked better. They even did side by side comparisons. I mean Grandia III is a good game don't get me wrong but graphics wise it looks like total trash compared to Enchanted Arms.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:38 AM

sudeki style gameplay please.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 05:04 AM

We can do without another one of those. Sudeki was good for what it was. The most overly simple action adventure game I have played in a long time. And how bout that 5 second silhouette ending? I would have really liked the game if it had a better fighting system, characters that were likeable, the weapon upgrading system was actually worthwhile, and it wasn't so damn short. I guess I would have liked the game if it was totally different and didn't feel like a chore to play towards the end. It was one of the most overhyped games I played on Xbox.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Jun 15 2006, 11:34 AM) View Post

so does this mean that grandia isnt a "true" RPG? i loved that series and it was from japan. KOTOR, fable, elders scrolls ARE RPGs but there are different types now. just because something is not turn based does not mean its not an RPG.

I understand what you mean but maybe you should say "japanese RPGs" instead of true RPGs. some look at oblivion as the first "true" RPG as you are playing a living ROLE of a character without the distractions and detours that take you out of the story and the character itself.

its all a matter of opinion is all, i enjoy all types of RPGs and i am very excited to how many are headed to the 360 (mistwalker games are top of the RPG list).

as far as reviews, i dont know about american reviews but i do know it faired well in famitsu. im rather excited about this game as well, and yes the name has been americanized so that it is understood easier.

im curious to how they handled the gay character in the game, i wouldnt be surprised if they changed him a bit.


I guess the phrase "true RPG" is a bit opinionated. Perhaps "classic RPG" would be a better way to describe what I'm talking about. I've never played Grandia, so I can't comment, but just because a game isn't a classic rpg in my eyes doesn't mean that I think it sucks. I'm just trying to convey how I feel about RPG gaming on the xbox consoles. Everyone says "Sure, we've got a few good RPGs", and while I'll agree that we have a few good fantasy games, not a single title on either console has satisfied my RPG craving, because I am looking for a classic japanese turn-based RPG. That's all I meant.

I'm pretty excited for eM as well. Looks to be what we've been missing, the story sounds decent, the cinematics look great and I hear that character development is pretty good as well. I'm suprised that some people complain about the graphics. While I don't see any crazy bump or specular mapping, the textures, colors and detail look phenomenal.

Gay character? huh.gif


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Posted 16 June 2006 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 15 2006, 10:21 PM) View Post

that's because KOTOR II wasn't made by Bioware wink.gif

The name of this game has always been Enchanted Arms the english title was modified slightly to make more sense to a Japanese audience. If you watch the trailer on the XBLM it makes more sense.

I think the game looks really good, my GF who is a rabid RPG fan is really excited for it. 1up.com got an early copy of the Japanese version and did nothing but complain about how bad they thought it looked huh.gif They compared it to Grandia III on the PS2 and said THAT looked better. They even did side by side comparisons. I mean Grandia III is a good game don't get me wrong but graphics wise it looks like total trash compared to Enchanted Arms.


there is a trailer on XBLM??!

i also saw a weekly show video from 1up where they compared eM to grandia 3, they showed a clip from eM showing the city most of us have seen in pics/vids (colorful city with carnival and balloons) just to cut to a clip of grandia 3 showing ugly brown dirt ground and A rock. i was looking at this and thinking WTF are these people smoking, at least make an effort to do a good comparison.

QUOTE(lowendfrequency @ Jun 16 2006, 08:38 AM) View Post

I guess the phrase "true RPG" is a bit opinionated. Perhaps "classic RPG" would be a better way to describe what I'm talking about. I've never played Grandia, so I can't comment, but just because a game isn't a classic rpg in my eyes doesn't mean that I think it sucks. I'm just trying to convey how I feel about RPG gaming on the xbox consoles. Everyone says "Sure, we've got a few good RPGs", and while I'll agree that we have a few good fantasy games, not a single title on either console has satisfied my RPG craving, because I am looking for a classic japanese turn-based RPG. That's all I meant.

I'm pretty excited for eM as well. Looks to be what we've been missing, the story sounds decent, the cinematics look great and I hear that character development is pretty good as well. I'm suprised that some people complain about the graphics. While I don't see any crazy bump or specular mapping, the textures, colors and detail look phenomenal.

Gay character? huh.gif


like i said, i understood what you meant, but times have changed and there are many different versions of RPGs now and im not including games that just "include RPG elements". I agree that while nothing really crazy is being done graphically (i do see some bump mapping) it is a very solid and clean looking game.

and yes, of the 3 main characters shown (guy in blue with black hair, blonde guy in colorful outfit, and main character) the blonde guy was reported to be gay by 1up in the same video that i was describing to twisted. maybe they were just expressing their opinion of him tongue.gif but i swear i remember them mentioning of how he is there for the "comic relief" and then mentioning the game not hiding his....ummmm.....preference

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:51 PM

wait wait wait, let me get this straight.

Are you telling me that RPG stands for Roll Play Game and not Role Play Game?

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE(lowendfrequency @ Jun 15 2006, 10:53 AM) View Post

KOTOR is NOT turn based. It is what is called a "probability system". It involves turns, but is not a turn based system because of the fact that you can control when those turns occur. A true turn based RPG plays out like a game of chess, actively changing your tactics based on your enemies moves. But in KOTOR, moves are stacked and the game plays out more like dice. Everyone throws down and you cross your fingers and hope for the best.



so you'd like to say final fantasy 10 isn't an rpg? its not "turn based" so to speak as turns don't alternate. your characters stats effect the turns and its possible to get 7 or 8 turns before your oppenent moves if the stats work out that way. same holds true for the Suikoden series. like others mentioned, KOTOR is an RPG without doubt, if you can't see that then you need to recondsider your definition of an RPG.




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