QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Jun 17 2006, 01:32 AM)
so you'd like to say final fantasy 10 isn't an rpg? its not "turn based" so to speak as turns don't alternate. your characters stats effect the turns and its possible to get 7 or 8 turns before your oppenent moves if the stats work out that way. same holds true for the Suikoden series. like others mentioned, KOTOR is an RPG without doubt, if you can't see that then you need to recondsider your definition of an RPG.
Never played the Suikoden series, but FFX and all the other recent FF's still use a turn based system. Your stipulation seems to be that the turn has to be "I go, game goes, I go, game goes". In FF, you have a speed stat which determines how fast your turn bar fills up, and when it's filled... it's your turn. Still 100% turn based. The important part is that the stategy concept of the old turn based games is still there, and the battle still plays out as chess.
KOTOR is NOT turn based, it is probability based, like a game of dice and for me that just doesn't cut it. I never said it wasn't a good game nor did I dismiss the fact that it's a fantasy game in which the role of a character is played... but simply fulfilling those requirements doesn't constitute an RPG in my eyes. Perhaps it does for you, and that's fine... but it does not mean I need to reconsider my definition of an RPG. I'm not going to change my opinion simply because you don't like it.