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#1 Boydster

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 02:14 AM

I recently internalized my Logitech wireless receiver and have come to find it would be best if I could somehow get normal controllers working in that slot again. The thing is hooked up in the 4th controller bay, so normal wired controllers no longer work there. I'd like to keep the wireless tidbit, but is there any way I can have it switch or override the wireless if a wired controller were plugged in?

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 02:29 AM

It should work fine if you use this tutorial with the controller reciever instead of the DVD dongle.

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 11:29 PM

Another alternative would be to use a 4 pole double throw switch (4pdt). Leave the black wires grounded, and use the switch for the red, green, blue, and yellow wires.

If you find a place to get 4pdt switches cheaply, please let me know. I need one for my DVD dongle.

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:48 AM

QUOTE(Barney_1 @ Oct 4 2006, 11:36 PM) View Post

If you find a place to get 4pdt switches cheaply, please let me know. I need one for my DVD dongle.

Ebay is probably the best place for this. I don't see any super-cheap, but I do see them cheaper than at retail:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...;category=26211

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 02:07 AM

u could just put a switch on the wireless red wire making the hardwired one work, b/c u can only have one device on a controller port at a time

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:31 AM

I did it by melting the rubber off the original controller port wires and soldering the wireless thing to it. Soo... the port is still fully intact.

I'm assuming the red wire is for power? If I cut the power to the wireless receiver, it'd be invisible/not there, forcing the system to work completely normal with a wired controller?

Sounds easy. But will it work?

Edited by Boydster, 05 October 2006 - 03:31 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:02 AM

Wait, so if you just attach the red wire from the wireless thing to the red one on the port, then to the xbox on every one it will work? So there will 3 wires to every color. That would work, as long as the keyboard and mouse is off they shouldn't interfere? Because I honestly dont feel like doing the relay one

Edited by MikeFez, 05 October 2006 - 04:02 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE(Barney_1 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:36 PM) View Post

Another alternative would be to use a 4 pole double throw switch (4pdt). Leave the black wires grounded, and use the switch for the red, green, blue, and yellow wires.

If you find a place to get 4pdt switches cheaply, please let me know. I need one for my DVD dongle.


wouldn't a 2pdt be adequate?
The yellow wire isn't used for anything in a standard controller, and the red wire is just +V, so your data is only on the green and white wires.

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE(memepool @ Oct 5 2006, 11:00 AM) View Post

wouldn't a 2pdt be adequate?
The yellow wire isn't used for anything in a standard controller, and the red wire is just +V, so your data is only on the green and white wires.


You know, I'd like to know the answer to this question. Here's my thinking:

1. Black wires are common ground so the can be always attached.
2. Red, Green, Yellow (yes, I believe this is used; by the light gun), and Blue would all need to be switched. If they are not, then you could have interference from a dongle while using the controller port.

Is this thinking correct or is it possible just to use a switch for the positive power and leave the rest of a dongle attached while using a controller port?

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Boydster @ Oct 4 2006, 09:38 PM) View Post

I did it by melting the rubber off the original controller port wires and soldering the wireless thing to it. Soo... the port is still fully intact.

I'm assuming the red wire is for power? If I cut the power to the wireless receiver, it'd be invisible/not there, forcing the system to work completely normal with a wired controller?

Sounds easy. But will it work?


Eh?

Edited by Boydster, 07 October 2006 - 03:27 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2006 - 04:14 PM

Just put a normal switch on the ground of the wireless. Switch on = grounded, working. Switch off = not grounded, no electricity flow.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 05:12 AM

That's not a good idea. The case carries a common ground. Since the controller ports are encased in metal, and the metal touches the metal of the case, the port would short through that even though the switch for the ground wires was not engaged.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:15 PM

Can I put a switch on the red wire? I'm assuming that would be the same as having two hard drives hooked up and only having power going to one of em. It'll just ignore the wireless receiver.

Keep in mind the port is still fully intact. The wireless receiver is just hitchin a ride on the 'de-rubbered' port wire.

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:01 PM

I think your best bet would be to splice all the wires together, from the controller port and the wireless reciever, then atach a relay anything from 2pole or spdt iwill work all you should need to do is switch one wire.

Theres a diagram and few cxomments in my relay post in my sig. i use it for reference.

Edited by crystalgeek, 09 October 2006 - 08:07 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2006 - 10:41 PM

Will my way work? Will my way damage anything? Still haven't heard anything in regard to the plan I suggested...

Please help me out here.




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