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#1 boofie75

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:26 AM

I have a Hitachi drive, and my DVD burner is a Memorex DL.

I've tried to do the hotswap method with wxripper, putting The Matrix into the Memorex, and when I swapped out for both Table Tennis and Far Cry, I get a "hotswap disc too small" message. I don't get it - other people have used The Matrix and done fine. Am I doing something wrong?

1. Put in The Matrix, wait for it to be read
2. Open wxripper, Matrix shows at top
3. Stop spinning
4. Eject drive w/paper clip, replace Matrix with Far Cry, push drive back in
5. Get magic number
6. Dump (and it dumps about an 8.5 meg .iso file, which I know is wrong)

I'm extremely confused, as there are about 2 other tutorials that have the Get magic number step BEFORE ejecting or say to spin the 360 disc after swapping. Is there a DEFINITIVE list of steps?

Edited by boofie75, 10 October 2006 - 03:44 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2006 - 04:10 AM

maybe its yoru dvd drive?

you check any compatability threads?


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Posted 10 October 2006 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Oct 10 2006, 04:17 AM) View Post

maybe its yoru dvd drive?

you check any compatability threads?



That's what I was thinking. I went down and tried it on my father's Pioneer DVR-110D, which is on the compat. list as ok, but it gave me four errors at 0 (illegal function or something like that). Then I tried it on his Sony DRU-510A and got four CRC errors at 0. Didn't get one "hotswap disc too small" error though, so it's pretty obvious my Memorex DVD16+- isn't compatible.

After swapping discs, am I supposed to click "spin disc" before I get the magic number? Like I said before, I saw a tutorial that said NOT to click it, and it's part of what confuses me.

Edited by boofie75, 10 October 2006 - 05:34 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2006 - 05:53 PM

Ok, open wxripper, select drive, get magic number, stop drive, swap disc, spin drive, start dump. Thats it. You want the magic number of, in your case, the matrix so that you have a layout of a dl dvd. Then you swap and dump using your new layout.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:06 PM

Hmmm ok so let me ask something here.. Lets say that i have 23 games...i do.. and i want to back them up...i can use this program to back 1:1 copies??? I have a flashed hitachi drive...I'm just wonder once this thing makes the ISO is there anything else needed to play the backup?

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 10:44 PM

No PAPERCLIP METHOD DUDE!! u shud take the dvd-roms case off and swap the disc threw the top on the fly. From my understanding, if the tray opens = wont work whether its the eject button or the paperclip

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:43 PM

Once you have your 7.05GB ISO you need to merge the security sector with it which you extracted from your original game disk.
Your backup will not work unless the ISO has been merged with the security sector first.
Use SS_Merger to do this.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:05 AM

QUOTE(modx15 @ Oct 10 2006, 10:51 PM) View Post

No PAPERCLIP METHOD DUDE!! u shud take the dvd-roms case off and swap the disc threw the top on the fly. From my understanding, if the tray opens = wont work whether its the eject button or the paperclip



So I've found. Turns out that if there's an error at 0 during the dump process, it's usually because the emergency eject was used, which makes the paperclip method useless for my dad's DVD drive model.
For some the paper clip method's worked, though.

QUOTE(itismejoshd @ Oct 10 2006, 06:00 PM) View Post

Ok, open wxripper, select drive, get magic number, stop drive, swap disc, spin drive, start dump. Thats it. You want the magic number of, in your case, the matrix so that you have a layout of a dl dvd. Then you swap and dump using your new layout.


But then you're ripping a 360 disc according to the layout of the movie DVD. That's not right, is it? Aren't the dummy sectors in different positions between the two? I always thought you got the magic number from the 360 disc...

Edited by boofie75, 12 October 2006 - 04:11 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2006 - 08:48 PM

I've just done a backup of amped using wxripper.

It went like this :

1. Load Wxripper
2. Find a DVD over 7.5 GB ( I used 24 series 2, DVD 1 (Just shy of 8 Gig)
3. Press find magic number.
4. Press stop drive.
5 Paper clip the eject mech (some drives will automatically think you are ejecting with the button, so it wont work with all drives - Ive got an NEC 2500A - worked a treat)
6. Change the disk over to your original 360 title - in this example, Amped 3.
7. Click spin disk, once the PC has detected the disk is inserted.
8. Dump the contents to your HDD.

I found i got CRC errors on step 3 and 4. So i saved the layout to a file, and opening it with notepad. Changed the first letter of the first 3 lines to a D (for Dummy), saved the file, opened the layout in wxripper, and then dumped with no errors at all.

9. Then I injected the ss.bin file, and burned the whole lot back to a Datasafe DVD+R DL.

Ive got Hitachi LG drive 47d, flashed with Maximus 2.2, and the game booted straight away first time, with no delays at all.

Hope this helps clear up the sequence for wxripper. I only just did it ten minutes ago, and it definately works in the order above.


Hope this helps,

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 01:16 PM

Thanks guys,
Once my Pioneer 111D arrives I'll give it a shot!




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