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#1 docc

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 02:15 AM

Hi Guys,

I have been trying to play the "Versus" mode on Xbox live (quick match) and noticed that everyone in my team and the opposite team have much better weapons than me!!! I mean this COG just blows of my head from 200 feet away with a long shot while i have to take multiple shots with the "regular cheesy" automatic to kill an opponent! WTF is going on? How on earth do i get the heavy artillery like those guys?

Am i doing something wrong is that way it just is? Would really appreciate any input as this is really driving me nuts! Some kid who was probably like 12 years old was talking and like from a distance just blew my friggin head off!!!! I shot him like 10 times and the li'l bugger didn't die!!!

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 03:22 AM

Host, or get a better internet connectoin.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 03:50 AM

So wait, if i host a game, i get to choose what weapon i use? And what does my internet connection have to do with anything? I have a 3MB Broadband....isn't that good enough?

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE(docc @ Dec 5 2006, 08:22 PM) View Post

Hi Guys,

I have been trying to play the "Versus" mode on Xbox live (quick match) and noticed that everyone in my team and the opposite team have much better weapons than me!!! I mean this COG just blows of my head from 200 feet away with a long shot while i have to take multiple shots with the "regular cheesy" automatic to kill an opponent! WTF is going on? How on earth do i get the heavy artillery like those guys?

Am i doing something wrong is that way it just is? Would really appreciate any input as this is really driving me nuts! Some kid who was probably like 12 years old was talking and like from a distance just blew my friggin head off!!!! I shot him like 10 times and the li'l bugger didn't die!!!

Cheers!


The latency (lag) the host's Xbox experience to all players as a whole can sometimes lead to an unfair host advantage. If in a game all the players are experiences more glitches than normal or the host is shotgunning multiple opponents with one-shot-kills then the host is a crappy server. This is the case when I host as I stopped hosting games. This is usually the case where one player on the team is pulling off crazy stunts and insane scores, though sometimes its just luck and skill.

If its not a host advantage issue then you will have to take a look at your strategies. If your opponent is a long distance away you want to machine gun him in the knees, close-mid to close range shut gun him. Machine-gunning vs shut-gunning close range is almost always a win for the shut-gun, so know what weapons to use when.

QUOTE(docc @ Dec 5 2006, 09:57 PM) View Post

So wait, if i host a game, i get to choose what weapon i use? And what does my internet connection have to do with anything? I have a 3MB Broadband....isn't that good enough?


You do know you choose your weapons with the D-pad? You always start the game with a machine gun (right on the D-pad), pistol (down), shotgun (left), and smoke gernade (up).

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 04:34 AM

There are weapons laying all over the maps. You just have to find out where they are. They are usually in places where its fair for both teams to get them.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:29 AM

Thanks for the tips guys. Yea, i was aware about the button configuration to swap weapons but what i noticed was that everyone but me has shots, long shots, crossbows, lancers etc right from the beginning. I am not sure if they are getting it in game from the hidden spots because it seems more like they already had it on them! Its a real killjoy when opponents kill you without you even knowing what the hell is going on!!!

About the maps and weapon locations, anyone have an idea as to where i can get my hands on them?

Cheers.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:40 AM

Start up like a split screen multiplayer and just look around. I had the same problem at first. All these people had guns and I was like WTF. But as soon as you look for the weapons you see them all over the place.

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 08:24 AM

Yeh the weapons are at equal distances for both teams, so you need to rush the good ones with your team or you'll get pasted.
Never stand there shooting someone if the guy receiving lead is aiming a gun at you and not shooting, it's more than likely he's scoping your brain. If a guy is running around with a orange glowing light, just hide until he fires then charge up to him ph34r.gif

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:54 AM

Thanks for the tips guys, i'm gonna try them out smile.gif

Cheers.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE(docc @ Dec 5 2006, 07:57 PM) View Post

I have a 3MB Broadband....isn't that good enough?

Broadband...really; i though it might have been dialup. laugh.gif

Is it cable or dsl, and what is the upload and download; to host effectively you need good upload>


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Posted 07 December 2006 - 07:38 PM

to be perfectly honest I haven't experienced much of a lag problem online at all.

Lots of other games have been much worse.

I see people complaining about a "host advantage" but having both hosted and not hosted many many GoW games I don't really see that much of a host advantage, if any at all.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 07:56 PM

No real lag problems from me either.

New players just need to understand that there is a certain "feeling out" process you have to go through when you first start playing this (or any) game. Before you can succeed you need to adjust to all sorts of things, such as speed, strategy, style, etc. Furhter, learning the maps (and where weapons are) is tantamount to doing well.

Its just silly when people get smoked their first time in an online game and think its for a reason other than what I mentioned above.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:02 PM

Head shots, head shots, head shots.

As in all shooters, you must train yourself to have an aim for head shots if you want to succesfully rack up kills. I have yet to play GOW since I selfishly bought it for a Christmas gift for my sibling, but I saw this thread and decided to see if anyone threw this out there. I'm not sure how the controllers handle, but most likely they'll stick you crosshair right in the middle of the screen. You'll have to learn where exactly your crosshair should be to get headshots in most situations of an enemy being on the same level surface as you. Try it out with friends and in-game, and force yourself to keep moving your crosshair to that position. If you do it succesfully then you'll probably see an increase in your number of kills and length of time it takes to take someone down. Now of course this tactic is derived from and more useful in first person shooters, but you can still apply it to GOW with alot of training. Give it a shot, literally.


And of course, as stated above by 2poor, learning your surroundings defiently helps.

Edited by Vfreitas, 07 December 2006 - 08:05 PM.





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