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#16 pig5

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 07:25 PM

WME assistant will encode MKV to WMV-HD If your MKV files can be played by windows media player.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:00 PM

Yeah I'm at my office PC, so I'll be able to work with it tonight. You are correct on the jitter.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE(pig5 @ Jul 9 2007, 07:01 PM) View Post

WME assistant will encode MKV to WMV-HD If your MKV files can be played by windows media player.


Do you have a good control over the output file size? I have a good few 9GB, 90min films that really could look just as nice at 4.5GB.

Edited by Jakeway, 09 July 2007 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:17 PM

Great! Thanks, this is exactly the thing I was looking for. But one problem: your link to the MKVtoolnix doesn't work...

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE(Jakeway @ Jul 9 2007, 09:41 PM) View Post

Do you have a good control over the output file size? I have a good few 9GB, 90min films that really could look just as nice at 4.5GB.


Try to use CBR1pass 6000kbps for video, CBR1pass 768kbps for 5.1 rolleyes.gif

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(GooDay4U @ Jul 10 2007, 06:53 PM) View Post

Great! Thanks, this is exactly the thing I was looking for. But one problem: your link to the MKVtoolnix doesn't work...


Sorry, the filename got messed up when I put it on my server. The original download link is to an .exe so the X-S forum filtered it, which is why I RAR'd and uploaded it in the first place. Anyway, its working now.

QUOTE(pig5 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:42 PM) View Post

Try to use CBR1pass 6000kbps for video, CBR1pass 768kbps for 5.1 rolleyes.gif


First of all, CBR sucks. You can use this tutorial with CBR and get decent encodes for most movies... but the upside of using VBR cannot be disputed.

Secondly, go take your instructions for your methods to another thread. This thread is for me to answer questions about my method. I can't even stand how cluttered many threads get; you doing it to my thread really chaps my ass.



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Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:47 PM

excellent guide m8 , im doing this now biggrin.gif , any chance of maybe a .pdf version or word document or something , just so people dont need to keep the page open when going through the steps?

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:32 PM) View Post


First of all, CBR sucks. You can use this tutorial with CBR and get decent encodes for most movies... but the upside of using VBR cannot be disputed.

Secondly, go take your instructions for your methods to another thread. This thread is for me to answer questions about my method. I can't even stand how cluttered many threads get; you doing it to my thread really chaps my ass.


Well, Every coin has tow sides, CBR is the best way to control your output file size.

Sorry, this is my last post in your brilliant thread. happy.gif

Edited by pig5, 11 July 2007 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:26 PM

I have a question: What if I want to play the video from my Windows Media Center, and not to burn it on a disc? Can I do that? And why do I need to control the output file size, if I don't care about? I prefer not to reduce the quality, and to handle wirh a couple more GB.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:16 PM

These files should play fine with Windows Media Center. If you want to play them on your 360, you can just use the Media -> Videos -> Computer option... but they should play/stream with Media Center just fine as they are Windows Media files.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 12:00 AM

THANK YOU!!!!

I have been using so many programs trying to convert mkv to WMV and finally a great guide comes along. I never knew TMPGEng had grone so much since it's old command line days.

2 questions:
1)About how long does it take other people to encode a ~90 movie? I have a 2.0ghz Dual Core and it looks likes its going to take about 8 hours, but it did just start.
2)Why do you suggest demuxing the audio into its ac3 stream and then tell TMPGEnc to use the seperate file?

Thanks again


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Posted 12 July 2007 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE(joker927 @ Jul 12 2007, 12:36 AM) View Post

THANK YOU!!!!

I have been using so many programs trying to convert mkv to WMV and finally a great guide comes along. I never knew TMPGEng had grone so much since it's old command line days.

2 questions:
1)About how long does it take other people to encode a ~90 movie? I have a 2.0ghz Dual Core and it looks likes its going to take about 8 hours, but it did just start.
2)Why do you suggest demuxing the audio into its ac3 stream and then tell TMPGEnc to use the seperate file?

Thanks again


1. You should see the time dwindle down pretty fast, then level off. Hopefully others will input some encode times.

2. If you just load the MKV or AVS file directly for audio, it will read the source audio as 2 channel. You can see this on the clip details when importing the default audio. By demuxing it to an AC3 stream and loading it separately, the original 5.1 audio track gets encoded as 5.1 still.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE(Jakeway @ Jul 9 2007, 07:24 PM) View Post

I will upload the sample I am working with and PM you a link, give me an hour. If that is ok with you?

I am using your settings, and cant think of anything else to change. I read that the jitter is due to the way the FPS is re-encoded.


The original source file is pretty jittery. I'll continue to play with it, but it seems this wasn't a very good original encode. Even the way my method depicts isn't optimal- we're re-encoding something that's already compressed. The ideal situation is to encode from HD-DVD / Blu-Ray source files directly... which is another tutorial I'm working on smile.gif Anyway I'll play with it some more like I said... but when I watch your sample I see a bit of jerkiness when Christian Bail is moving

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:43 AM

Huuuuuuuuge thanks mate. Have converted about 5 of my hd movies so far without a hitch beerchug.gif

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:50 AM) View Post

The original source file is pretty jittery. I'll continue to play with it, but it seems this wasn't a very good original encode. Even the way my method depicts isn't optimal- we're re-encoding something that's already compressed. The ideal situation is to encode from HD-DVD / Blu-Ray source files directly... which is another tutorial I'm working on smile.gif Anyway I'll play with it some more like I said... but when I watch your sample I see a bit of jerkiness when Christian Bail is moving


Well, thank you for trying. I have some other videos that need a re-encode due to small things that really bother me. So I’ll try some other clips, but they’re always 23.976.

Edited by Jakeway, 14 July 2007 - 12:01 PM.





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