Edited by Fred_PJ, 09 July 2007 - 10:27 PM.
Microsoft's Biggest Mistake With The 360?
Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:09 AM
I would say the RRoD problem / denying the RRoD problem (They kinda go hand in hand...) and the lack of filetype support were their biggest mistakes. Being honest / reasonable with consumers and a firmware update could solve these problems though.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 01:19 AM
I also think better Media Playback capabilities from the start would also have been better. Playing HD quality movies over HDMI off of the hard drive? Sounds good to me! The Media Center Extender thing can stay, but calling it a replacement for an XBMC-style media player is a joke.
The RRoD is outrageous. I can understand some problems at first, but we're still having them? They should have invested more money into quality and rigorously tested the hardware. But we all know they wanted to get it out the door a year before everyone else. This is the most important problem. This is what's going to draw the average consumer away.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:32 AM
theres more i could complain about in that list although some of it you know microsoft will never give to the people like how XBMC is for the original xbox1... pretty much does all formats.
but honestly the denying it for 1.5years is just flat out unacceptable!
Posted 10 July 2007 - 03:40 AM
1.At how such an obvious design flaw could slip past MS &
2.How easy/simple the fix was to correct the flaw
Still...I'm not totally PO'ed at MS,it only cost me a couple of dollars to fix my 360 and now its running like a champ again,plus I've removed the X-Clamps from my other 360s just as a precaution and did some further cooling mods to the ductwork inside the 360.
Between my PC's,360's and PS3 ..I save a ton on heating in the winter,my gameroom is always nice and toasty
Edited by BanditRW, 10 July 2007 - 03:52 AM.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:54 AM
I wanted to be selfish and vote D-Pad but that's not far as bad as my brother's RRoD problem, so the D-pad is something I can live with... I also don't see anything about the 360 menu being really slow... that's one of my bigger problems with it...
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:03 AM
Time and time again I turn it on, only to play for a few minutes and end up playing KotOR or something on my original Xbox. I find the 360 slower, oddly enough, than the original xbox, and the sound output is crackly. Just to be finicky and add to the list of other issues.
Anyway, I voted for the RRoD issue, as I have suffered this twice. Fourth console for me. Hooray. Luckily the outfit I bought the thing from replaced it the first two times as it was in the first month (respectively) of me having the thing.
Total issues, however, are too numerous to list. The lack of an internal HDD, and the SKU with no HDD at all, are very valid points. I understand (and please correct me if I am wrong) that any standard 3.5" HDD can be put in the PS3 with instant ability to use the entire space, whereas with the 360 (even if you do manage, by some miracle, to locate the correct model) you can still only use as much space as you would have had with a standard HDD. Of course, I understand that there is work involved with the PS3 HDD swap effort.
So, at one point I gave up and tried to sell my 360. I couldn't even sell it for half what I bought it for. Including games and all. This, to me, is a larger sign of a failed console than anything else you could name. People want to see some kind of investment from such a large and heavily-hyped product. Not the type you might get returns on, but the type that at least your neighbour might covet. Not something that breeds fear in the hearts of men.
The cheap components report from whichever Taiwanese company reported it was expected like an oncoming freight train.
To add to this, I am expecting in the future that M$ will release a version of the 360 with a next-gen DVD format internally. They did this with HDMI, and so I don't think see any reason to suspect they won't do so with the optical drive. The bitterly disappointing thing about this is that those of us that purchased the console originally will miss out (and did so with regards to HDMI) yet they will still call all sales a win for the 360. I understand changes made to improve the general console itself (such as with the different versions of the original Xbox) but adding technology into a released product is a no-no. Whats more, if any devs decide to create huge mammoth-proportion games (who's not waiting for this to happen?) and decide they want to release them on a console, they will have to go with PS3 as the 360 'cannot play games from the HD-DVD add-on'. Where's the justice, you say?
My only hope now lies in XBMC for the 360. The possibilities at this stage are limitless!
Another point that has occurred to me is an alternate angle of the price issue for the PS3. Sure, at this point its way above expectations. However, as prices for the technology drop, prices of the PS3 will come down, and this will not be an issue.
At the same time; most of the other issues the PS3 is currently sporting can be fixed by some well spent development dollars (the online service and the limited games selection to name two). Considering how long the PS2 has been round, and how it is still being made, supported and sold (WTF were you thinking M$, dropping xbox1!?!?) I would say Sony intend the PS3 to be around for a long time, and so are thus far not concerned about the price issue. After all, its working insofar as to further their control over the next-gen DVD market, isn't it?
Now, if only it didn't look like something food should be cooked on...
Edited by bobjim17, 10 July 2007 - 08:15 AM.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:05 AM
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:40 PM
We should make a list and send it to Microsoft.
you are the man!
i have had just about every problem in the book with the 360 im sick of it ive owned four already and they
died after normal use and when i got the elite i thought maybe they would have fixed everything but they
still are not dealing with the problems at hand if you ask me because i still see them way too much
note: hd drive?
my system is blueray for the movie room could care less about anything HD anymore other then the TV itself
Edited by ISOmaniac29, 10 July 2007 - 12:44 PM.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 03:23 PM
It should also not require special formatting or sizing of the videos in order for it to play as long as it was compressed using a compatible codec!
Heck for under $100 you can go buy a DivX/XviD stand alone player. Tell me why MS would not be able to afford to license playback as others have and still make plenty of money? Heck I would buy another Xbox 360 if they had DivX/XviD support!
And last but not least, "Windows Home Networking" and I am not talking UPnP Media servers. I am talking SMB network browsing support.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:58 PM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:10 PM
If everything produced a different error code we all wouldn't been unified with the same problem.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:16 PM
I am wondering why the elite doesnt have hd dvd internally and wheres my web browser. three freakin cores and no browser?. surely it can handle it, plus its a COMPUTER
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