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#1 killerbootsman

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 06:25 AM

So I'm looking to upgrade my current 1985 Volvo 740, with something a little more, erotic. I've been checking out some 1996-1999 Audi A4's on ebay, autotrader, classifieds, etc.. And looks like I can get one for about $5000. I'm 17, don't have any credit, and my parents don't want to cosign, so if I were to get one, I would pay for this pooch in cash.

Does anyone have any opinions, good or bad, on them? Any known issues, preference on 1.8 turbo or 2.8 v6, etc..

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:43 AM

I have a 1999.5 Audi A4 Quattro with the 1.8T and Tiptronic(Auto) Transmission...I have an upgraded K04 turbo/giac chip on mine.

With that being said, I love the car....for a sedan, it's a blast to drive- but if it was my only source of transportation, I would look elsewhere. In addition to this car, I have a newer Jeep Wrangler and a classic Chevrolet Camaro that I do all my own work on, including engine swaps...but working on this thing is another story.

These things are expensive to maintain, everything has to be ordered from Germany and requires a special Volkswagen Auto Group tool to do anything, so only specialists and dealers can service them (and they need to be serviced alot). However, it's a decent car as long as you understand that outside of a warranty, it's going to cost about $2k a year to keep it on the road...which is also true for newer Mercedes-Benz/BMW vehicles as well

If you are still set on the A4, try to find one with a 5spd manual transmission and the Quattro AWD system, it's really what makes these cars shine, being able to haul ass comfortably in any sort of weather (sun/rain/snow). As far as engines go- both engines are decent.... 2.8 VR6 is good for keeping it stock, 1.8T is great for modding potential. Both require premium fuel and need to have the timing belts replaced religiously on schedule or you risk destroying the engine. Other than that some common problems to look for are: lower control arms that wear out and start to squeak and some ball joints in the front end steering assembly(mostly 96s and early 97s). Faulty ABS pumps and side airbags sensors that malfunction are relatively commonplace, be prepared to deal with both.

Don't even consider anything with more than 100k miles, it will nickel and dime you to death wink.gif

Edited by zer0321, 09 August 2007 - 11:03 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2007 - 06:07 PM

Well, with being a college student pretty soon, I'm not going to have 2k a year to throw around just to keep my car operational. I think in all likelyhood, I'm just going to keep my volvo 740. It's got 1/4 of a million miles on it, but I've never had to do any maintence besides oil changes and tuneups for the 2 years I've had. She's a great little car, but she's not a looker. I would consider keeping her, and getting an Audi A4, that way I would have some form of transportation if my Audi was shot, but I don't think I could afford insurance on both of them.

That's another question I have, how much are you paying for insurance on it? I would probably only have liabilty on mine, since comprehensive+collision for a 17 year old with 1 speeding ticket on file would end up costing me $500 a month.


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Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:53 PM

I have an Audi A4 18T Sportsline. Awesome car. Chip it and they go like split shit.
Best car I owned 1997 Model. Cruise control, heated seats and every extra in it. I would not swap it for any other type of car.
Insurance I pay 197 per year but I am an old git
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These things are expensive to maintain, everything has to be ordered from Germany and requires a special Volkswagen Auto Group tool to do anything, so only specialists and dealers can service them (and they need to be serviced alot).

Not sure how it works for parts over in the US but I do all my own servicing, repairs. Never had to use a dealer or a special dealer only tool for anything. The cars are well built but easy to work on. I get my parts from German & Swedish.
The cars don't need servicing any more than any other vehicle I have owned and are in fact more reliable. oh it has 131K mile on as well and runs as good as a new vehicle. Burns no oil or anything. Don't understand the 100k comment as it is well know these engines can easily do 250k with no major problem
The Astra estates I run for my business are far more of a cost to me in servicing than the Audi.
Buy one you won't regret it.

Edited by Chancer, 15 August 2007 - 02:59 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2007 - 07:27 PM

Honestly I would stick with your Volvo. At 17 years of age with limited finances and looking to go off to school in the next year. Believe me when I say that it's not worth sacrificing functionality for looks when you are strapped for cash. As has been pointed out above, Maintenance can be horrendous on the Audi vehicles. @chancer it's a whole different ball game for European made cars here in the states. Parts are VERY expensive.

Edited by jesterrace777, 15 August 2007 - 07:29 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2007 - 10:02 PM

My best friend drives a Audi A4. Really nice cars.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 01:31 AM

My brother owned an A4 for a number of years and I would pretty much echo what zer0321 said about it.

lots of maintenance, expensive parts and custom tools.

The two things that stick out in my mind as going most frequently is the wheel bearings and the catalytic converter I can name 4 people I know personally who had A4s in the late 90s-early 00s who had to replace both of those things before 100K miles.

Working on the car was a lot more difficult than other cars I had worked on as well... though typical for most European cars I've worked on. no offense to European automarks but I've found that they're generally not designed with ease of maintenance in mind. For comparison a job that would take .5-1 hour on a Japanese car would usually take 2-3 hours on a European car. This is based entirely on my own experience as I ended up doing most of the wrenching on my brother's A4 wink.gif

He eventually sold it because he couldn't keep up with the maintenance costs but he still swears by Audi to this day, no for reliability but for a solid and classy ride. If he had the means I'm sure he would probably own another one... FWIW he drives a Subaru Forrester these days.

After having owned cars from each of the 3 major auto making continents and wrenching on cars from nearly every major automaker I'll probably never own anything but Japanese cars from here on out laugh.gif but I'd buy European if I came into money and didn't feel like working on them myself. But even then I'd probably buy a BMW or Lotus.

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 07:55 PM

Know what, I 've been looking at a few of these on Criagslist lately. I seen a few for around $3-5K. I might either get one of these or a Golf GTI, or maybe a Honda. I'll have to see though, Im at WSU, Im 19, and I'll be 20 April 30th. This wayne State shit aint cheap. lol (books, etc.) But I might still get a Audi, I'll just have to save for a lil while.




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