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#1 Xbox-Scene

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:03 AM

PS3 vs Xbox 360: Who's Really Winning Europe?
Posted by XanTium | May 25 23:03 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From gamedaily.com:


Earlier this month Sony Computer Entertainment Europe chief David Reeves happily announced that over five million units of PS3 hardware have been sold across Europe, allowing the console to surge past Microsoft's Xbox 360 despite the 360's 16-month head start in the region. In an interview with Wired, however, Microsoft Game Studios' Shane Kim seemed to dispute those numbers.

So Microsoft continues to claim a "comfortable lead" and yet when we reached out to Sony, the company maintained that the PS3 was winning. Perhaps what it really comes down to is the definition of Europe?

Here's what a Sony rep told us, "The statement was based on the fact that cumulative sales of PS3 in Europe since its launch now exceed the cumulative sales of Xbox 360 in Europe since their launch, despite Xbox 360 having had a 16 month lead on PS3. Europe means the whole of Western Europe, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Russia. SCEE sources its market data from official sources such as ChartTrack and Gfk, from their retailers and from a variety of additional sources. SCEE has been using the same methodology for the last 10 years or so."


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#2 trentdadi

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 05:26 AM

I think sony puts more importance on consoles sold while M$ seems to put more significance in attach rate.

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 06:22 AM

"We do not disclose our internal sales data, but our figures show we enjoy a comfortable lead against PlayStation 3 in the region."

Considering the fact that neither company reports their internal sales data, this statement from both companies is just plain stupid, and without any meaning whatsoever.

Or, to paraphrase the quote:
"We don't know what the other guys sold, and we won't tell what we sold, but trust us, we sold more!!!"

Edited by Flagg3, 26 May 2008 - 06:23 AM.


#4 JBmtk

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 07:06 AM

This is so stupid....and quite honestly I'm sick of reading news like this on this site. It's just another excuse for fan boys to get all witty and fight with one another, so good job xbox-scene- Bring back the real news on the xbox and stop comparing.

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 07:41 AM

There really isnt any news thats really that important anymore.

#6 DeMoN_DARREN

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 10:48 AM

Its a shame that most of the XBOX 360 hardware news is sales and analysis....

I just want good competition.

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE(Flagg3 @ May 26 2008, 07:58 AM) View Post

Or, to paraphrase the quote:
"We don't know what the other guys sold, and we won't tell what we sold, but trust us, we sold more!!!"


So true!!! Man, you have the makings of a top-notch analyst or PR/marketing specialist!!! :-D

Edited by vanxman, 26 May 2008 - 11:20 AM.


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Posted 26 May 2008 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE(JBmtk @ May 26 2008, 07:42 AM) View Post

This is so stupid....and quite honestly I'm sick of reading news like this on this site. It's just another excuse for fan boys to get all witty and fight with one another, so good job xbox-scene- Bring back the real news on the xbox and stop comparing.

So pass it by without comment and go read something elsewhere. Don't use the thread to make a complaint against XS.
I will inform Xan and HSD to await your riveting news stories with fantastic content.
If anyone thinks they have some ground breaking news you can submit to Admin at any time.
Fact is the 360 has not been hacked really and there is only so much stuff you can say about flashing firmware.
So if you don't like the news then don't comment in the thread. If you wish to complain use the correct method.

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 03:41 PM

So Middle East, Africa and Russia are now part of Europe ? I think Sony needs to download google earth and take a closer look at the map dry.gif

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE(Z3n0 @ May 26 2008, 04:17 PM) View Post

So Middle East, Africa and Russia are now part of Europe ? I think Sony needs to download google earth and take a closer look at the map dry.gif



Ditto.

Not so fussed about this 'news', as concerned about how sony class Africa and the Middle East as Europe. Twats.

#11 ProfessorH0j0Jr

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE(Flagg3 @ May 26 2008, 01:58 AM) View Post

"We do not disclose our internal sales data, but our figures show we enjoy a comfortable lead against PlayStation 3 in the region."

Considering the fact that neither company reports their internal sales data, this statement from both companies is just plain stupid, and without any meaning whatsoever.

Or, to paraphrase the quote:
"We don't know what the other guys sold, and we won't tell what we sold, but trust us, we sold more!!!"


I was under the impression that publicly traded companies were required to share their sales data and generalized spending with the public. Either way that was an awesome paraphrase wink.gif

#12 Shonk

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 05:28 PM

i was wondering how ms was supposed to be loosing to the ps3 in europe
if the uk alone has sold 2.2 mill +

now i see

sony are including everywhere apart from usa and japan in europes sales figures


oh and i own 2 ps3's so im no 360 fanboy only



#13 MaulerX

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 08:06 PM

WTF??? Sony counts Africa, Russia and the middle east as part of Europe??? blink.gif
For all we know they are probably counting Japan in there as well... dry.gif


Microsoft has every right to dispute those Sony European #'s.


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Posted 26 May 2008 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE(MaulerX @ May 26 2008, 11:42 AM) View Post

WTF??? Sony counts Africa, Russia and the middle east as part of Europe??? blink.gif
For all we know they are probably counting Japan in there as well... dry.gif
Microsoft has every right to dispute those Sony European #'s.


so if ms uses the way sony does its count does that mean ms is doing better in japan?


#15 MaulerX

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE(tristanx @ May 26 2008, 04:04 PM) View Post

so if ms uses the way sony does its count does that mean ms is doing better in japan?



Dude, if M$ included European sales figures to define Japan then the answer is yea.
Much better.








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