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#1 Crispy3000


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Posted 25 June 2008 - 01:14 PM


I'm currently setting up a new xbox in my collection that is modded and has a large harddrive (lba48 formated 32bit clusters) and I want to copy the contents of my F from another xbox (same spec as previous one).

Now I've done this in the past but was forced to Ftp from Xbox1->PC (Large buffer space)->Xbox2.
This is a pain in the arse its very time consuming if I don't several hundred GB free.

Ideally I would like to FTP direct between the xboxs e.g. Xbox1->Xbox2.
Ok so this requires an FTP client on the xbox end. I've tried this in the past using XBMCs built in client and it bombed out from time to time with 'some files failed to copy'. Obviously theres some bug caused by a long file or special character thats causing it to crash.

Today I've found another Xbox FTP client from the usual place called xb-ftp062.

Does anyone have experience of using this client ?

Is it reliable ?

The other method I would consider is Direct harddrive transfers. I know xbhdm (using a pc with the two drives) has this option but as it does not know how to format 32bit Clusters can it read/write the drive?

Again has anyone tried this and is it reliable?

Is there any other method of copying the contents of 1 large F partition to the other?
Perhaps something involving both the drives in one xbox ?

Any wisdom of those that have gone before would be most welcome.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 01:19 PM

Have you come across the Xbox-to-Xbox transfer guide in my signature?

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 02:45 PM

No I had not seen it.

So UnleashX has an ftp client. I do use it as my dash but never seen it. Will give it a go.
The change log on the 0.62 client mentioned above makes me think its not so reliable.


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Posted 27 June 2008 - 10:09 AM

I see why I did not see it now. The ftp option is just off the page in the fileexplorer options (I did not even know there were pages as there was so much space between the other options). Even knowing where to look took me a mo to find it.


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Posted 28 June 2008 - 12:24 AM

I use WS_FTP to copy games from xbox to xbox. I just connect both xbox to my router, run EvoX dash on both, ftp to both xbox with WS_FTP and copy/paste games.

I never had any errors or problems.

Edited by exraid, 28 June 2008 - 12:25 AM.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 12:41 AM

Have done box to box a lot, and I mean A LOT over the years... Avalaunch is faster and easier than any of the other solutions stated above.

As awesome as Xbmc is, it's ftp is slow (less than half the speed of ava on average). Unleashx is unreliable with dir's with lots of small files (emus and music for example), it is faster than xbmc but slower than ava.

Trust me, even though you have no reason to... you will have the best box2box experience possible with Avalaunch.


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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:15 AM

Depending on your exact scenario you may be able to clone the drive.

I did this for my last upgrade and it worked very well. Of course you have to consider cluster and partition size and what not.

I used Acronis True Image Home Edition. Works with pretty much anything including USB HD's. I'm sure you could use Ghost too.

On a side note though, I typically just use FlashFXP and open Xbox A on the left side and Xbox B on the right. Queue up your transfers and let her run all night. Usually works pretty well for me.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 05:48 PM

Cloning is rarely useful between different xboxes unless your lucky enough to have the exact same drive in both (or don't care about losing space). I love acronis as a clone tool when I use it though its sooooo much better than ghost there in different universes.

I did it with UnleashX in the end. Avalaunch's ftp I've always found buggy (does not display listing correctly on changes).

XBMC ftp server is good can't fault but as i said before xbmc ftp client has issues (you can't use it to copy all games between the xboxes).

gasclown you say UnleashX is unrealiable when small files. As part of my backup I did my emulators and roms no problems (that I know of). Do you mean Unleashx misses stuff/Corrupts Stuff/ or gives an error message?

Also worth noting I used active ftp for bulk of the transfer as they were on the same subnet but I did backup a few games via PASV ftp using it too across wifi subnet still no reported errors. Only thing I did notice was the total number of files and data copied reported by unleashX summary seemed wrong on the finish. However the on disk stuff looks right. I did do a huge backup with it in one lump (250gb+) and got a good data rate too of ~12MB/s (Obviously thats using boost mode as it exceeding 10MB/s network theoritcal network speed limit).

Still I have copied on lots of different xboxs now if I find a problem I got a backup happy.gif.

On a slightly different note during this setting up a new xbox I put a new shiny western digital harddrive 500GB. I checked it was lockable before purchase but I was gutted to the see the message "An error occured" from unleashX when trying to lock the drive. After taking a deep and breath (plus a quick shot of whyskey) I tried locking the drive using config magic and no probs.

So just so people know UnleashX does have issues with some drives it seems.


Also for those people with multiple xboxes is very much worth setting your hdkey to be the same in the eeprom across your xboxes. Many games lock their saves to that value and means you can swap your drives between xboxes in case of failure (and if you forgot to backup eeprom).

I got help from people doing this on this thread:

Altering Eeprom

Hopes that helpful

Edited by Crispy3000, 29 June 2008 - 05:42 PM.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 11:25 PM

The UnleashX to UnLeashX backup method has a serious bug as guy above mentioned but did not elaborate.

I just posted about it in the unleashX forum have a look:


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