umm I just read the last few posts and am not sure what exactly just happened... perhaps some PM's went down? From what I understand is that run088 doesn't like the fact that Rx is requesting that people upload videos for his "project"?
It's Ironic because about 2 weeks ago I typed out about a 10paragraph long post about why I disagreed with people like Rx and Sotu saying things like "I've put in over 2,000 hours of my life into my XBox, and you're damn right I'm going to get something in return for my time." After I re-read what I wrote though I felt that it was better left unsaid and therefore did not post it.
However, now that I see run088's views on what I think is to be a similar matter... again, correct me if I'm wrong about what it was he was referring to, his initial post seemed to come from left field and perhaps there were some underlying tension.
Anyways my two cents... very briefly. My opinion is that this scene is entirely open source and free and has been built by the selfless contributions of many. If you want to contribute then contribute... what Rx is trying to do is great, the icons and contributions that Sotu have made are great... but don't feed us the garbage that you're not going to make your work available if you don't get support. Make it available or hold it to yourself, it's entirely your call. But make a decision one way or the other, and don't make any conditions. Fact of the matter is, the majority of people are not going to contribute, they will take what has been given without giving anything in return, that's just how it is going to be. If your a "contributer" and don't like this than don't make your work public, in my view it's as simple as that...
It should be noted also that this "free choice" concept applies to the "lesser contributers" as well. If Rx requests that people help out and make some videos than they have the choice to either do so or not. If they choose to do so it is most likely because they support the progress and the direction the project is advancing in and therefore would like to contribute. If Run088 is implying what I think he is implying by calling everyone else "spineless" and saying that we should "grow a pair" I think he should seriously reconsider those sentiments... People who choose to meet the requests of Rx do so of their own free will. and most definitley would not look favorably upon Run088 implying that they are spineless, and that they have somehow lost his respect.
I for one respect most everyone on these forums. I feel that all contributions are great and add to the already great scene. However, I do not like how some people feel that they are owed something in return for their work. After working hard at something, it may almost be a natural feeling but people should realize that this is all open source stuff, people will contribute if they have the time and the motivation, but not because someone irks them along.
Not that I'm old or super experienced or anything, but as my time on these forums has evolved I have taken a back seat. I made a couple of skin mods earlier... and I think some people might have even used them at one point lol... but now, for the most part, I just help people who ask intelligent questions. I feel that I am still contributing in someway and that I am part of the scene. However I do wish more people would just take things for what they're worth and not expect so much in return.
QUOTE(run088 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:12 AM)
I just want to know what your going to do if xports emulators cant play the videos?It seems it maybe a waste of work and time.And until it is able to happen it is a worthless cause.Dont be under the impression because znes does it that it is possible on everything else.
here is an example of what my point is
Would you go buy a pair of tires for a car you dont have and only are thinking of buying?
Or due you buy the car first then worry about the tires?
Now that you have the tires for the car that you dont own.You go to buy the car and find out it is totaled.So there is no car.Now if thats what happens what are you going to do with the set of tires you dont need.It is unwise to put all your eggs in one basket.And it is unfair to madmab to put him under the gun with the pressure to do it.And he did not need the incentive of the screenshots he is one of the former members of the repository he has always helped me out when I asked and I believe he would not be any different to anyone else.But if you wanted to show him some love I believe the way to his heart is the 5200 not the colecovision.I believe the colecovision is for us "the scene".The 5200 was his 1st project and I am betting there was a reason or method behind it.Food for thought on the proper way to work people using people skills is all I am saying.
Hey man, I think that the underlying thought process behind this is that because some xport emulators have been given the ability to run preview videos all of them can, since from my understanding there would be some sort of similiarity amongst the code for these emulators. In this case it would be easier to make the videos now and to have them when the time comes, than to have an option available with no videos in which to use...