360 Red Ring Of Death. I've Tried Seemingly Everything...
Posted 20 September 2008 - 08:39 AM
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 02:01 PM
Also the x-clamp kits that drill through the case aren't v good - Case flexes when it gets hot. Board warps.
The towel trick is the worst thing to do since it will blow up the capacitors - when you look at them do they look flat or bowed up? If flat you're still okay, otherwise that might be your problem. Altho from experience I'd say ANA chip.
The whole rubber pads on RAM chips/penny trick/Xecuter fix is overrated.
As you will see from here the 0022 error is more likely a scaler/(H)ANA chip problem;
"There is high chance it's a scaler chip problem (the "ANA" or "HANA" chip near the AV cable connection)"
Which means you're going to need to heatgun your console.
Edited by Professor_Xbox, 20 September 2008 - 02:04 PM.
Posted 20 September 2008 - 06:04 PM
Posted 20 September 2008 - 07:38 PM
Is there anything I can use in place of a heat gun? And I used Llamma's kit... so I did drill through the case. However I placed the screws inside of the case and am now using only 4 washers instead of 5, more like the kits that don't require you to drill. Thanks again for your help!
No, I've had people using hairdryers by getting the console hot (with the fans on CPU) and then hairdryer onto ANA chip and it has worked but only for 5 mins!
Xbox Scene has a good section on how to heatgun by Wilheim I:
Nonetheless it is tricky!
If you really don't want/can't heatgun then lets go with this .......and this is me being completely experimental but hey, experimentation is fun!
Not sure about the whole x-clamp you have - seems odd. Guess you had to cut the GPU heatsink to get the screws to fit. Hopefully you only have 1 washer (or none) on the underside (spring washer would be great but if not then no washer is probably better than any since it won't have any effect.)
2 washers on top of motherboard? Thermal paste too.
Okay. First take the fans out. Also the DVD. Fan shroud out so you can access the ANA chip easier.
Then with the motherboard sitting in the case but not screwed in (just the front board with the lights slotted in) rest the fans on the CPU heatsink (and plug them in!!!) Get some 1/4 inch washers - nice and heavy duty things - (3 should do it) and rest them on the scaler chip (it's the one with XBOX 360 in a silver circle).
Turn on Xbox (with power and AV cables in). Wait for 10 mins til it gets hot. Then put hairdryer over the scaler chip and concentrate on that chip for 1 min at max hairdryer power. Then turn off for 20 mins ...at the wall - if you unplug at the back and the washers slip off the chip then might short something - see, told you experimentation is fun!
Turn on and see what happens!
SAFETY NOTE: The Xbox has 12V power through it so not a great chance of electrocution... unless you're a mouse! However whilst the chance of hairdryer + xbox = kaboom!!! are slim to none just be careful. Don't be having a cup of tea or a bath whilst doing this!
My thinking is the hairdryer + xbox heat softens the BGA solder. This then presses down because of the washers ontop and you have yourself a connection! Working xbox! (Yes, it's a slim chance Wilheim I/anyone else that's going to flame this idea! but HawkPidgeon you are my guinea pig!!)
Edited by Professor_Xbox, 20 September 2008 - 07:41 PM.
Posted 20 September 2008 - 08:25 PM
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:53 PM
If the hairdryer's only going to provide a very temporary fix, then I'm not sure I want to try it. I want a 360 that really works.
The only way to fix it permanently would be the heatgun method. If you want to buy a better x-clamp fix I sell those on ebay (and ship Worldwide);
However, I think either way you'll need to heatgun. BUT....... it might JUST work with the extra washers. Humbald is wrong about squishing the solder balls. The hairdryer just won't get it hot enough at all. The best it will do is slightly soften and with the washers on top it might just stick back on. I'd give it 40-50% chance of working. Heatgun 100% chance (if done right).
Edited by Professor_Xbox, 20 September 2008 - 10:55 PM.
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