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#1 BoNg420

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 06:01 PM

Due to other posts going way off topic, they will be closed.

Please ask questions here

Liteon 83850c hardware support and related software suport:

LOS83
Freekey
Dosflash
OpenKey
Jungleflasher


Please keep this thread on topic. No personal attacks against members or hacking groups and no off-topic posts. Members breaking these rules will have proper infractions(bans, mutes, etc.) placed on accounts as needed.

Please help the scene and community and support your fellow hackers and modders. Please help other members seeking help with their liteon drives.


DO NOT USE PROBE/SPEAR WITH LITEON 83850C DRIVES! IT IS NOT NEEDED AND CAN DAMAGE YOUR HARDWARE!

Tutorials:

Tutorial made by OggyUK using jungleflasher and openkey

Click on tutorial description to view.

Edited by BoNg420, 12 August 2009 - 04:43 AM.


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Posted 11 August 2009 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 11 2009, 01:01 PM) View Post


DO NOT USE PROBE/SPEAR WITH LITEON 83850C DRIVES! IT IS NOT NEEDED AND CAN DAMAGE YOUR HARDWARE!



Ok, glad you said this. Here is why.

It is said the you can flash a 83850C with firmware from the 74850c and vice-versa.
I already flashed a 74 with the 83 iXtreme to try all the new tools (los83 and freekey) in preparation.

If you flash a 83850C with 74850 firmware does the probe work again or is the TX killed right in the hardware?

Edited by syntaxerror329, 11 August 2009 - 07:00 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2009 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Aug 11 2009, 01:58 PM) View Post

Ok, glad you said this. Here is why.

It is said the you can flash a 83850C with firmware from the 74850c and vice-versa.
I already flashed a 74 with the 83 iXtreme to try all the new tools (los83 and freekey) in preparation.

If you flash a 83850C with 74850 firmware does the probe work again or is the TX killed right in the hardware?


I'm not sure if the probe would work again, but if you put ixtreme on a liteon, you don't need a probe again, you can get all the required info through sata.

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Aug 11 2009, 10:58 AM) View Post

Ok, glad you said this. Here is why.

It is said the you can flash a 83850C with firmware from the 74850c and vice-versa.
I already flashed a 74 with the 83 iXtreme to try all the new tools (los83 and freekey) in preparation.

If you flash a 83850C with 74850 firmware does the probe work again or is the TX killed right in the hardware?


You shouldn't need to use the probe again since JungleFlasher can grab the key data from any iXtreme firmware.

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 11 2009, 02:43 PM) View Post

I'm not sure if the probe would work again, but if you put ixtreme on a liteon, you don't need a probe again, you can get all the required info through sata.



QUOTE(PornOH @ Aug 11 2009, 03:42 PM) View Post

You shouldn't need to use the probe again since JungleFlasher can grab the key data from any iXtreme firmware.


Yes, i know with iXtreme i wouldn't need to ever extract via serial again.
My question was very specific. I am trying to understand if TX was killed in the hardware or in the firmware or maybe both even.

Again question i am asking is "If you flash a 83850C with 74850 firmware does the probe work again or is the TX killed right in the hardware?"

So if someone is bored, has a 83850 and will flash it with ixtreme74850 and then try to dump key via serial i would like to know what the result was.







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Posted 11 August 2009 - 10:47 PM

and the difference between 83850c and the 74850c is firmware only, have done the same flashed 74 as 83 and extracted with success,I can see no reason why it it shouldnt work but aint got 83 to try, damm , where as a few weeks ago having a 83 was like having leprosy.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE(turny @ Aug 11 2009, 10:47 PM) View Post
aint got 83 to try, damm , where as a few weeks ago having a 83 was like having leprosy.



lol yeah credit that to the magic of the scene and it's sceners.

but i would assume tx was killed in the 838 hardware, just a guess tho.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:22 PM

Hey I'm just wondering if bad Identify data can cause E65 Error. I just flashed a 83850c and it worked pretty good, but occasionally now it will get a E65 Error. Here's a picture of jungleflasher. I have the dummy.bin loaded as source and the Lite_CFW.bin that I used to flash the drive loaded as target. Anyways here's a picture:

IPB Image
Looks funny to me, i'm gonna try reflashing it.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE(celltoolz @ Aug 12 2009, 06:22 PM) View Post

Hey I'm just wondering if bad Identify data can cause E65 Error. I just flashed a 83850c and it worked pretty good, but occasionally now it will get a E65 Error. Here's a picture of jungleflasher. I have the dummy.bin loaded as source and the Lite_CFW.bin that I used to flash the drive loaded as target. Anyways here's a picture:

IPB Image
Looks funny to me, i'm gonna try reflashing it.

-CellToolz



LOL, Actually i used OpenKey not FreeKey to create the Key file then used JF to create Dummy.bin

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:11 PM

Hi. the problem that exist with the wrong key(140F0F1011B5223D79587717FFD9EC3A) on the liteon-83850c is corrected or not?

Edited by fitsman, 12 August 2009 - 07:15 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:15 PM

The key is correct and it plays backups/originals. Just sometimes it get's E65 on Boot. I'm thinking it has to do with bad Identify Data. It was a customer console so now I'm headed out to Portland to replace it. smile.gif i guess you live and learn and then get Luvs...

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:19 PM

@celltoolz
How long after flash before e65 began showing up? i used freekey to create my files and so far so good

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:26 PM

About 2 days after flashing. Also it's a brand new Console just got it back from MS Repair center about 7 days ago if that, everything worked fine before flashing. I'm headed to the dudes house right now to do a swap with another console then i'm gonna try reflashing and see if that fixes the problem. Ill post back.

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 05:29 PM

Do we still need to use the Xtractor Reader program to obtain the 3 bins or does JF do it all?

Im a noob so help me out tongue.gif

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 05:56 PM

Use LO83 to extract the ident and key information, then use FudoWarez program to open the .bin file, decrypt the key, and generate a dummy file for use with JungleFlasher.

So in this order:

1.) Download and run LO83info_32.exe with Liteon drive connected

http://anonym.to/?ht...850c/83850c.rar

2.) Download and run the FudoWarez program. Open the file you saved with LO32, decrypt the key, and save a Dummy.bin file

http://anonym.to/?ht...850c/83850c.rar

3.) Run JungleFlasher. Open the Dummy.bin file and flash to drive.

http://www.junglefla...0.1.65.Beta.rar

Edited by xbox360sexual, 13 August 2009 - 05:56 PM.





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