Trying To Decide On A New Car
Posted 25 December 2009 - 03:16 AM
Potentially I might ride out a year on a ford company lease vehicle, which is nice because my drive to work will be about 100+ miles/day, and would be put on a car I dont own.
2009+ subaru wrx.
Pro: 265 hp, awd, lots of stuff to mess around with
Con: its not an sti, I utterly hate the impreza fanboys
2009+ subaru wrx sti
Pro:305 hp, 6spd, better breaks and driving options
Con: its almost 10k more than the wrx
Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Pro: cheap, fun to drive (a friend owns one), did I say cheap?
Con: its a hyundai
Im curious to see the subaru/toyota's ft86 vehicle actually turn out to be, or to see if the the wrx/sti get a facelift in 2011 model year.
Any other cars I have missed or any other suggestions would be great.
Posted 28 December 2009 - 03:59 PM
EVO has evolved into more of a powerhouse performance car... WRX has devolved into a "sporty sedan"
case and point: it has a push button e-brake
I do love the boxer motor but... the rest of the car has been ruined IMO.
What about a 370Z? out of all the "new" cars on the market, that and the Evo are the only two I would consider buying personally. The Genesis coupe is ok but it just seems like a fat Tiburon to me.
I'm also patiently waiting to see what happens with the FT-86, it looks like it could turn out to be a fantastic car.
any reason you want a 2009? you dip into the past a little and there are lots more options... the eco-friendly movement has killed off most of the good performance vehicles.
Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:59 PM
I will consider the evo a little more, and the 370z is more expensive and less practical
Posted 29 December 2009 - 04:14 AM
if I were ever to buy one again i would go with an older GC style, or maybe another GD. But since they went to the hatch the platform has gone way downhill IMO.
I agree that the 370Z isn't exactly a "practical" car... but it's no less practical than a Genesis Coupe.
you know you can always get a 240... they're cheap AND capable the S13 hatchbacks are not only easy to find but they're also extremely practical when you consider the storage capacity. lots of guys in my club have used their own 240 hatch to pickup their engine swaps or even haul complete body kits/ladders/etc.
Edited by twistedsymphony, 29 December 2009 - 04:21 AM.
Posted 29 December 2009 - 06:14 AM
I am going to look more into the mitsu, I just dont like the idea of pushing 300hp from a 2.0l engine as a DD. That and they cost more than the subaru.
That and hearing about the 2011 mustangs, i might have to consider it. The V6 is 305 hp and 30mpg, V8 is the new 5.0 and 412hp
Edited by lostboyz, 29 December 2009 - 06:44 AM.
Posted 29 December 2009 - 03:01 PM
Now on the other hand the new Camaro would be something to consider, it makes the same power from the V6, and beats the crap out of the mustang in nearly every aspect of performance as well as comfort and looks.
Edited by twistedsymphony, 29 December 2009 - 03:02 PM.
Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:41 AM
I personally don't like the camaro, it looks like a cartoon to me. Maybe the next model year, because the power and price seem very competitive (I'm sure that taxpayer money helps it to be)
I guess I have more to go test drive, such a shame
Posted 11 January 2010 - 03:53 PM
if I didn't know it was a ford I would have sworn the thing was designed and built in China... the whole thing just felt cheap and plasticy.
FWIW I get that same impression from a lot of US built vehicles... though that's not to say there aren't some that don't have a higher quality feel to them.
the Ford Focus, and the Edge both feel like proper vehicles, some of their pickups look and feel well put together too.
90% of GM's output was GARBAGE up until the 08-09 model years when they miraculously snapped out of it and started producing good cars again.
I'm not talking crash tests, handling, or engine acceleration...
I'm talking about how the car feels when you get in and manipulate the controls... are they crisp, smooth, appropriate? do they fit your hand well, are they located and sized appropriately? do the trim panels fit together with laser precision? do they look high quality?
go take a few test drives in new BMWs and Audi's to know what I'm talking about... If you want some specific examples checkout a Cooper S or an Audi S3
That aspect of a car is what those two companies do better than anyone else... that's not to say anything of their ACTUAL quality... but just feel the controls and look at the details in the cabin when you get in the car... then compare it to what you get in a mustang.
Edited by twistedsymphony, 11 January 2010 - 03:58 PM.
Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:40 PM
That said, the price is right
Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:31 PM
that said, i get the most compliments on the interior, but it also has the premium interior package upgrade, im not sure what the stock interior is like
Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:05 PM
plastic garbage on top of plastic garbage
searching around I can't find a picture that looks like the mustang interior I sat in...
the auto shifter was literally a cheap black plastic bar with a button on the end and it was so lose it would rattle against the center console, everything else was just a monotone gray with no accents or chrome trim or anything... it didn't even have fabric on the doors the panels were just a solid hunk of plain gray squeaky plastic.
I guess I'm used to car with foam dashboards that at least LOOK like they're actually covered in fabric, with trim that is either painted, real metal, or real fabric.
I mean the interior in my 1995 Nissan is nothing to write home about, but at least they try to hide the plastic, or at least spruce it up and there's no fake metal or fake trim seams.
Edited by twistedsymphony, 13 January 2010 - 11:13 PM.
Posted 14 January 2010 - 01:17 AM
Posted 14 January 2010 - 02:49 AM
I got a job working for chrysler, though I am on contract and therefore have no obligation nor intension to buy one. Though today I did find out that the current mitsu lancer and dodge caliber share platforms, my god how could they screw it up so poorly. I found a little gem in one of the lots today that is a "caliber ext" that closely resembles the lancer rather than this piece of crap.
I'm going to ask a few people wtf happened, or what drugs the designers were smoking to end that way.
Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:34 PM
the new lancers are friggin sweet though, one got traded in at a Nissan dealership near me, black on black, slammed with a huge HKS intercooler in the front, the thing looks like it would devour other cars for fuel
The whole winter thing is why I now have multiple cars.
the WRX I had was awesome in the snow but at the end of the day it pained me to trash the car every winter... so I bought a pickup to get me around during the salt months....
After that I started questioning if the WRX was really worth it if it wasn't an all year car and the answer was a clear: NO.
Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:46 PM
Though I am really getting excited for the FT86. It would really be the perfect car to fit what I want, boxer engine 6 speed manual, and rwd. A new video came out today from the tokyo auto salon for a special version of the concept car(didnt know they made sales packages of concept cars). I am also curious to see what the subie version ends up looking like.
video of the toyota
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