0020 - Oven Fix + Xclamp....
Posted 24 March 2010 - 04:57 AM
Got a console 0020. took it home, baked it with tinfoil trying to reflow gpu + cpu. Applied AS5 to both.. Out of chassis, on chair, IT BOOTS!!... NO VIDEO. but audio. tried overheating to reflow again, put back in case = 0020 again..
did x-clamp with 2 mm nylon washers on top, 1 mm metal on bottom, 0020 cant get it to boot.
what the hell do I need to do? this xbox has kernel 4355. been down since prolly 2007.... i KNOW it has life left. please help.. heh..
Posted 24 March 2010 - 03:00 PM
Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:00 PM
Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:45 PM
After you cooked your 360 open the door of the oven a little bit and let it cool down for 10 min. I would open alot of windows during the reflow process couse its gonna get nasty. Anyway im just a unexpierenced nub trying to help you out so use at your own risk.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:02 PM
fixed the GPU - with a hairdryer 2000w..
seems i scratched a trace by the xclamp screw hole, i looked at it 60x magnified.. now error 0110. shit, im positive I had it too.
and yes it was nasty - use a hairdryer if you have one powerful enough.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:40 PM
Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:43 PM
Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:54 PM
The hairdryer worked better then the oven dude.
Posted 26 March 2010 - 02:36 AM
Last ditch effort I used the heat gun... after 3 min or so the gpu flux under the chip started to fizzle a little bit so i knew it must have reflowed the solder. I let it cool down.... turned it on and it has been working great ever since.
If you attempt heat gun fix just be sure to research tutorials and other peoples experiences before you do it.
Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:55 PM
If you get the solder Re-Flowed right, you won't have issues....I repair a lot from other repair guys and I see a lot of backyard attempts to keep the RROD away. All which is unnecessary..The more experience you have the more you know if you Re-Flow it right, you will be good to go!
Plus heat guns BLOW the hot air too much...You want a little heat/air blowing down on the BGA's and slowly work your way up to min of 217c to get the solder to Re-Flow then work your way down. On heat guns you don't have the opportunity to slowly raise the temps at one steady speed. Most only have a few options and that's it. You want to only raise the temps at around 2-3 degrees a second.
Posted 24 April 2010 - 04:04 PM
You just make them set back to factory to my understanding, but didn't they come from a factory with this issue of a pending death?
I understand how effective it is to fix the inital problems but its more than just the original soldering that caused the issue. What steps do you take on the uneven cooling or the fact that the 2 middle stand offs flex the board too much?
I'm not trying to argue just curious you mention none of the other issues.
Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:00 PM
If I did, others would use it and my repairs wouldn't stand out from my competitors.
Precision PFL uses a "13k" machine and I have repaired several of their consoles now and have had no returns on them. I just have my technique that I have found to actually work.
I don't use the standard 16 metal/16 nylon, I have my own version to keep everything good and strong. I don't have to waste the time to drill holes, cut case,etc.
Sometimes I do wire to 12v as I offer it free with my service(5 in 1 service) but just upon request type of deal.
Posted 25 April 2010 - 07:26 PM
Posted 25 April 2010 - 09:35 PM
Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:20 PM
If you had it setup with a program to do the heating and cooling cycles you'd be able to knock them out quick.
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