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#1 j0rpi

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:59 AM

I've had this problem for years. I have this cable - With this cable, the image is ghosting in 720p and 1080i, but not in 480p. The ghosting is highly noticable. In 720p, almost 50% of the image is ghosted and about 20% of the image is ghosted in 1080i, UNLESS i plug in the S-Video cable in. While having the S-Video cable plugged, the ghosting is reduced alot in 720p, but it's still noticable (very very noticable) and in 1080i it's almost gone (it's hard to see it from distance). I havn't thought of getting the original component box by Microsoft, cause i think this cable should work properly. There's also lines scrolling the screen (not very noticable). And when i have the S-Video cable plugged in and the Xbox changes from ANY resolution to 720p, i get no signal, and have to detach the S-Video cable and plug it back in. Has anybody else had these issues?

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

You cannot use S-Video and Component at the same time. S-Video is standard definition only, and Component is Hi-Def. 2 different modes are needed from the Xbox video encoder.

As far as the ghosting, it could be caused by any number of things. There are really only 2 ways to troubleshoot this issue. One is to get an official M$ component cable and see if the problem persists. The other way is to try another HDTV with your current setup. Between the 2 options, you should be able to determine the culprit.

Edited by xboxmods2977, 20 March 2012 - 02:32 PM.


#3 fallenangle

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:26 PM

As xboxmods2977 suggests the only real way of finding the cause is to test with another TV and if that has the same issues you know it is either the cable or Xbox where the problem lies.

It is not clear what you meant about plugging the S-Video cable in. Do you mean you still get the ghosting when using S-Video? Yours is multi-purpose lead (Component, S-Video and Composite) so do you mean you plug in the S-Video connector at the same time as the Component but the TV is still set for the Component input? What about the Composite connnector?

I'd guess at a cable problem and what I'd do is check that the small switch that there should be to change between Component and Composite/S-Video is set fully to 'HD' or however Component output is designated.

If that doesn't work I'd unplug anything else connected to the TV including the aerial and, if possible, switch it to an untuned channel. Connect the Xbox direct to the TV using the three Component plugs only ie. do not connect the audio, S-Video or Composite ones.

Should you still get the ghosting you're back to square one. But if not you will at least be able to identify what it is that causes the problem by methodically plugging and unplugging everything you normally have connected to the TV until the culprit is revealed.












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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:25 PM

Well, of course i know S-Video is low def, but i need to have it plugged in to make some of the ghosting to dissappear. Maybe i explained it in a way you don't understand, but i use the component leads, and the Xbox is running in HD mode. If the S-Video cable is plugged in at the same time, some of the ghosting dissappear, but without it plugged at the same time, there's so much ghosting. Also, it's not my tv, it has been tested on alot of TVs. And i read another thread that the switch on the cable might be the cause of the ghosting, cause the guy had removed the switch and made his own switch for the cable. It's like the S-Video or the whole composite part of the cable is causing interference. And fallenangle, i have disconnected all cables except the power to the TV and the interference is still there, and as you mentioned about the switch, i had read about that before that the switch might be causing these problems.

Also, about the composite leads, their not connected at all, they don't make a difference on the ghosting, only the S-Video is connected.

Edited by j0rpi, 20 March 2012 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

So it's not the TV or the cable HD/SD switch and you've eliminated most of the other possibilities. Well then what's left? Answer: the cable itself.

Obviously and unfortunately the only way to test this is to try using a different Component lead.

I've had my own problems with dodgy cables so I can understand the annoyance this sort of thing causes. I also have unresolvable TV issues at 1080. Xbox, XB360 (PS2, and GC too) all perfect at 480p, all use official Component cables but switch to 1080i with the Xbox and XB360 and I get faint but noticeable background ghosting no matter what I've tried.

In your case I hope it is just a simple matter of a replacement cable being needed.





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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE(fallenangle @ Mar 20 2012, 07:34 PM) View Post

So it's not the TV or the cable HD/SD switch and you've eliminated most of the other possibilities. Well then what's left? Answer: the cable itself.

Obviously and unfortunately the only way to test this is to try using a different Component lead.

I've had my own problems with dodgy cables so I can understand the annoyance this sort of thing causes. I also have unresolvable TV issues at 1080. Xbox, XB360 (PS2, and GC too) all perfect at 480p, all use official Component cables but switch to 1080i with the Xbox and XB360 and I get faint but noticeable background ghosting no matter what I've tried.

In your case I hope it is just a simple matter of a replacement cable being needed.


Well i guess it's my only option right now. I can get the official MS cable cheap. I'll reply back again after i've bought it. As far as i've seen, it seems no one has ever had problems with it.




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