Where Do You Think You Go When You Die?
Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:32 PM
Yeah I know some of you people on xbn are going to Flame at me but Just thought I'll bring this discussion up.
Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:46 PM
Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:47 PM
I think about death a fair bit but i always think about how i will die and what that will be like as opposed to the afterlife.
I think I am grossly desensitized when it comes to religion, the afterlife, politics...working in a bookstore, I see all the crank-pot theories and books on the topics. For example, the author Sylvia Brown(e?) has written numerous books on the topic...but they are all marketed to desperated middle aged women (you can so tell from the cover). Look here and see what i mean. The point I think I am trying to make is that anything in the media that pretains to the afterlife is bullshit. IF we have souls and IF they continue living when we die is beyond me.
Then again, it would be great if we moved on to a better place, but that gets us on the topic of heaven and hell. Sin and such. I would rather simply cease to exist than spend the rest of the afterlife in a place like hell. but I would also rather live in a better place than cease to exist. hmm...
damn dude this is deep...gotta go make some Deep 'N Delicious pizza and clear my mind...mmm delicious!
Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:55 PM
the story of the guy who was stabbed in the head and was born again with the birthmark at the same place he was stabbed before? he remebered everything about the murder and when he owned a antique shop with his wife..
Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:16 AM
Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:20 AM
This is something that we probably wont know since we cant die and live to tell about it.
Now people always think of the good and for the better. no one here admits they want to live life at the worst possiable rate right? people always say tomorrow will be better. People have made hope for them self's all throught the existence of man kind. religion and everything else is just a thing to give people hope and keep peace in the world. As we all think of the out come of our actions. Tell me when you havnt through that "God" was watching you and you shouldnt do something because *when* I die I'll go to hell.
all of this is just hope. im not saying hope is bad and that religion is bad. (Look its been around from "God" knows when) and its still around untill today keeping some sort of peace because its in everyones mind.
this might be a little hard to understand and read
but please dont be offended by this just prove me wrong and post your point of view I didnt post this to get flamed.
Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:25 AM
|QUOTE (dre145 @ Aug 24 2003, 01:20 AM)|
|but please dont be offended by this just prove me wrong and post your point of view I didnt post this to get flamed.|
Your point is valid, no one can proove you wrong. As religion, supernatural existince, etc. is merely opinion there is really no factual basis to make certain beliefs more valid that others.
Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:30 AM
What I mean by this is that all what we are, is because of our brain. It makes us think, feel, want, (basically your entire personality)etc..... When we die, our brain dies which is what makes us who we are.
See where I'm getting at?
Concepts such as "afterlife" was created by people who feared not existing. Afterlife makes death easier to accept.
Sad but true.
Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:44 AM
Posted 24 August 2003 - 01:09 AM
In my opinion, human belief shapes everything. If you're Christian and you believe you've lived a good life (and your God agrees with you), you go to Heaven. Likewise, if you've believed yourself to be an irredeemable sinner, you'll suffer in Hell, regardless of how your God thinks of you. It's easy to think of yourself as a good person, so your God has to confirm this before you're rewarded. However, it isn't easy to honestly believe you deserve to suffer after you die, so your God won't oppose this (except in some very specific situations).
The same applies to every religion. If you're Shinto and believe to have followed the ways of your spirit pantheon (be it a nature spirit, an ancestor spirit, or "demon"), then you join said pantheon in whatever realm it is a part of... except, of course, you wish to be rewarded for a life of sin, whereas you'll get only suffering. (Confusing? Blame it on LSD! )
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'll rot in the ground when I die. In the end, as long as the Cycle is preserved and I get my due reward/punishment, I have nothing to complain about, even if it's banishment to a sort of Oblivion.
Posted 24 August 2003 - 01:13 AM
Edited by Tengo_Down!, 24 August 2003 - 01:15 AM.
Posted 24 August 2003 - 01:15 AM
Posted 24 August 2003 - 01:40 AM
comeing back in no shape or form
Posted 24 August 2003 - 01:41 AM
Recently my uncle passed away at the age of 47 (2months now). He passed from a massive stroke. Unfortunatley it damaged his brain to the point where he could not breathe on his own. It was very unfortunate.
A month before this happened, we celebrated the First Communion of his son. My mom and my uncle were talking. He asked her if she ever has dreams. She answered yes, and he asked what kind of dreams. Later he went on to tell her that lately he has been having dreams with many deceased family members. He told her about my grandfather, and grandmother. Also about my grandfather's brother. In life, they were all close. But it was odd that he was having these dreams, and didn't know why he was having them.
So as I said, a month later he had died.
So the point of this story? Enjoy life. You never know when you will die.
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