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#181 nino

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 07:56 AM

damn this is sweet. Damn Outpost had the 300GB for $239.99 after rebate which expired on 8/28/03. But still they have it for $289.99 while most places have it for more than $300.00. I can't wait!!!!!.
at Outpost ,do search for 3699695

#182 xVanWildeRx

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 08:05 AM

yes. i think were all excited. and theres no reason why we all couldnt be beta testers.. no need to claim dibs or anything. biggrin.gif

#183 oblox

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 08:09 AM

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Just thought it was time to pop out of the woodwork only been haunting these forums for a month or so.

Okay okay on with the points

1)Maxtor hard drives have a unique feature of future proofed UDMA modes (aka the drives can set themselves)

2)Is there any chance someone could add into xbtool or something, a way to remap partition6 to a new partition at the end of the drive?

Wouldn't this give apps (assuming they map F to Partition6) the ability to use the new space where as other bioses like say M$ original would not see it.

Hell there's a though how about remapping all the Partitions in the bios!!!! A dual boot system ahoy?

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 10:19 AM

Excellent work man.

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#185 Heet

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:03 AM

Im lookin at 250 gig drives and i guess i'll buy one next week now since this is becoming reality it looks like. I see where a guy is mentioning a 300 gig but i dont see any anywhere. Anyone know what the largest hd is out there?

#186 juan23

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:19 AM

great job once again, nice pic showing the 195 gig in evox.

HEET::: if you go on ebay maxtor makes 300 gig hdd's

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#187 Sc0rpion

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:27 AM

@ Heet

Did you actually do a search on outpost mate? i did and look what i found first attempt:-

http://shop1.outpost...product/3699695

300gb for $289 just like nino said wink.gif

#188 oz_paulb

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE (oblox @ Aug 31 2003, 10:09 AM)
Hell there's a though how about remapping all the Partitions in the bios!!!! A dual boot system ahoy?

That's really a great idea - you could have multiple sets of Xbox system partitions (drive C:), and use a partition editor to choose which one should be 'active' for the next boot.

I haven't tried it, but there's no reason why the standard Xbox partitions can't be moved around/put > 137GB. The offsets/sizes were all hard-coded into the BIOS before - now they are just entries in the partition table. The only thing that is 'hard-coded' is the partition numbers - (example: the 2nd entry in the partition table ("partition2") is always the Xbox system drive (C:)). That 2nd entry can be changed to point to any place on the drive. As I said, I haven't tried this, but it should work.

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#189 gggie

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 01:35 PM

this is a frickin' awesome discovery! but now need to figure out which hard drive to get tongue.gif -- which of these two is better for xbox purposes:

western digital 250gb, 8mb cache, 7200rpm

maxtor 300gb, 2mb cache, 5400rpm

will the greater amount of cache and faster rpm result in a noticable improvement in performance? or would there be no real difference because of the way the xbox works?

#190 JohnA

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 01:53 PM

XBOX with 250GB HD + 233GB of DivX files ready to transfer here. I'm ready to risk it.

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE (gggie @ Aug 31 2003, 03:35 PM)
this is a frickin' awesome discovery! but now need to figure out which hard drive to get tongue.gif -- which of these two is better for xbox purposes:

western digital 250gb, 8mb cache, 7200rpm

maxtor 300gb, 2mb cache, 5400rpm

will the greater amount of cache and faster rpm result in a noticable improvement in performance? or would there be no real difference because of the way the xbox works?

Get the 5400 rpm since it stays cooler. The xbox doesnt make any use of the 8 mb cache and the 7200 rpm at all, so it makes no sense getting the WD

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 02:06 PM

sorry for the dumb inquiry. Just woke up and posted without lookin. Does this mean the theoretical capacity is 2.2 terabytes? Thats what ive read but i dont know if thats fact. Thanks for the heads up on 300 gigs. Im gonna get one as soon as a bios is released with this goodie.

#193 oz_paulb

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (Heet @ Aug 31 2003, 04:06 PM)
sorry for the dumb inquiry. Just woke up and posted without lookin. Does this mean the theoretical capacity is 2.2 terabytes? Thats what ive read but i dont know if thats fact. Thanks for the heads up on 300 gigs. Im gonna get one as soon as a bios is released with this goodie.

Yes, 2.2TB is the theoretical max drive capacity (since we're only using 32bits of the possible 48bits of LBA48 addressing).

There will likely be issues with max partitions sizes for FATX, though, so you'll probably never see a 2.2TB F: drive (but it should be possible to make multiple partitions of whatever the max FATX partition size is).

Of course, by the time drives in the TB capacity come out, Xbox 2 (or 3) will probably be shipping.

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#194 crumb

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (oz_paulb @ Aug 31 2003, 04:22 PM)
Yes, 2.2TB is the theoretical max drive capacity (since we're only using 32bits of the possible 48bits of LBA48 addressing).

Q: Is that a result of the BIOS accepting a long as a parameter in it's disk functions?

Could it possibly accept a structure that is 48-bits in total? That would allow drives up to 144,115 TB or 144 PB.

#195 AsTnBoMb

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Posted 31 August 2003 - 04:01 PM

I dunno oz_paulb, I wouldnt underestimate the hard drive companies, they sure have come a long way very very fast.




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