Doa4 - Tv Mhz, I feel cheated :( Options

[cobra2002]

Yeh ill try that thanks!

And yes im so stupid i called it 'mhz' - but if anyone wants to buy my one of a kind 50mhz tv for £1 Million - go ahead

It is annoying - why would it require 50 hz for online play? PD0/PGR do online play but dont need 60.

My TV is a 28inch widescreen (Sanyo) and its only 2 years old. paid about £220 for it new.
Strange its quite new and dont support 60! I dont have the instructions anymore, so im going to just try the different scart - any other ideas?

If you havnt got the instructions, have you searched for them on the net ? It might support 60hz afterall.

[No_Name]

What happens when you set the video setting to 60hz?

Does it go black and white or does it go completly out of sync and start scrolling?

Like someone susgested switch SCART input to see if that allows you to view 60hz mode and one final susgestion is to check your remove for a mode button or check the settings menu for options on activating 60hz mode as it could be locked down.

Every PAL TV differs but if its that new you should have no problems with a 60hz signal

[envy]

At work at the moment - will check the internet for the manual tonight though - hopefully it should be an option.
Im pretty sure theres no mode on the menu e.t.c - but again im going to try again.
Last night i was pretty wound up about the whole situation, i just turned 360 off and gave up!

Well it does run in 60 hz but yes - it goes black and white. Every 2 seconds it flashes black and white.
You could actully play the game if you didnt mind black and white flashing - but your eyes do go ->

[No_Name]

I have seen that on a Sanyo TV in work just last week.

Basically the TV cant work out if the signal is a PAL or NTSC colour format so it goes bonkers and switches the colour mode so you get a second of colour then its black and white.

Somewhere on your remote is a button to set the mode.

On the TV I used the button is top right and has 3 little screens beside each other.

If you set it to PAL not AUTO you should have no problems anymore

[Ozy]

Mine works in PAL60 but the corners and sides flicker.

At least in nija gaiden you had a choice. This game locks up your controller if you don't boot it in PAL60 but appears to run fine in PAL50.

[No_Name]

Ozy as we said ealier in this topic the majority of recently produced TVs wil display a 60hz image without any problems or minor ones.

Ninja Giden did not have an option for PAL 50/60. Like all Xbox games it picked the display mode you the user had set in the dashboard.

[envy]

Well after pressing every button on the remote, and looking through the menu . . . theres no PAL option nor any 60hz option

Cant find my manual, none on the internet either! Though im going to have a look around now to see if i can find the manual!

Also tried every picture size in pal 60 mode and still flashing black and white.

Heres my tv anyway - TV

That spec says its NTSC/PAL compatible, maybe its a newer firmware? Strange. Hmmm maybe im missing something

[Ozy]

Ninja Giden did not have an option for PAL 50/60. Like all Xbox games it picked the display mode you the user had set in the dashboard.

That's what I ment. DoA 4 doesn't give you to option. You load it in PAL50 and it disables all controlls.

[No_Name]

Its a small round button top right of the remote I used.

Its got 3 little screens above it with different symbols. I did not enter the menus of the TV at all

[Joergen]

Most TVs built after about 1995 in the uk support both 50Hz and 60Hz. Ive owened 8 different tvs since 95 and all but a matsui 14" portable supported 60Hz, I guess you've just been unlucky with your tv.

You can get a 28" widescreen for under £100 if you hunt about on the net, I'm currently enjoying DOA4 on a 28" widesreen that cost less that two xbox games.

Quoted for the truth, but actually PAL60 is from 1987 or at least that is the first TV I've had that supported it via RGB scart.

I guess if you buy the cheapest each time you can succeed in getting a non PAL60 tv up until around 1995 afterwhich any TV with a scart or s-video input supports PAL60 and even direct NTSC via composite and RF.

The poster has managed to fool alot of people into thinking this is some sort of issue, when infact either his knowledge of which input his TV requires to support PAL60 is lacking or he's just bitching because his grandma TV doesnt support it.

edit: according to the VERY lacking specs in the link you posted, it should support NTSC through RF or even composite (though would require a switch in the menus if no autodetection) and even has a D-SUB VGA input that you can use.. just get the VGA cable!

This post has been edited by Joergen: Feb 15 2006, 09:31 PM

[ChadH]

Well after pressing every button on the remote, and looking through the menu . . . theres no PAL option nor any 60hz option

Cant find my manual, none on the internet either! Though im going to have a look around now to see if i can find the manual!

Also tried every picture size in pal 60 mode and still flashing black and white.

Heres my tv anyway - TV

That spec says its NTSC/PAL compatible, maybe its a newer firmware? Strange. Hmmm maybe im missing something

I just found your TV Instruction manual at www.sanyo.co.uk. I would have posted a direct link, but it would appear that there are two versions for your particular model. Just click on Service & Support on the home page, and then Product Instruction Manuals on the next page.

I hope you get it sorted.

[Carlo210]

I'm probably missing something, but what do you guys mean by 'switching it to 60hz mode'?

This post has been edited by Carlo210: Feb 16 2006, 03:48 PM

[twistedsymphony]

I'm probably missing something, but what do you guys mean by 'switching it to 60hz mode'?

It refers to the refresh rate 60Hz refreshes the screen's content 60 times per second, 50Hz refreshes the screen's content 50 times per second. Computer monitors can typically accept a wide range of refresh rates but TVs are locked down to a set standard... in NA we only have the one standard but in europe they have 2

you're in Canada... and like the US we only have 1 video mode (60Hz) so we don't have any options to switch from one mode to the other.

Europe used to use 50Hz, and has started adopting 60Hz so some content is in one mode and some content is in the other.

North America and Japan are known as "NTSC" and Europe and Australia are known as "PAL" countries it used to be that NTSC meant 60Hz and PAL meant 50Hz but since europe and other PAL countries started adopting 60Hz standards they started referring to them as PAL50 and PAL60... There are other differences between PAL and NTSC (like resolution) so it makes snese why they'd call it PAL50 and PAL60 as opposed to calling it NTSC but it really just adds unnecessary confusion.


This post has been edited by twistedsymphony: Feb 16 2006, 04:00 PM

[No_Name]

Its a PAL TV the default refreesh rate is 50Hz or 50 frames a second

Most PAL TVs can also refresh at 60hz or 60 frames per second.

Now. I know my TV at home and the TV I have here on my desk both auto switch depending on the input but some TVs have the display mode set by the user using a button on the remote or from the TV menu

[jbp20717]

I haven't known a TV that can be switched from 50hz to 60hz and viceversa - the switching is done via the Xbox 360 dashboard, as with the Xbox. Some PS2 and (a lot of) Dreamcast games gave us Europeans the option to choose between 50hz and 60hz when the game boots.

I also remember Project Gotham Racing saves being lost when I went from using a 60hz TV to a 50hz. It's possible that it does it to avoid mixing acheived times e.g. on most Nintendo 64 games like Mario Kart 64, the NTSC - which ran by default at 60hz - version was 20% faster than the PAL version.

This post has been edited by jbp20717: Feb 16 2006, 04:07 PM