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yung_modder
post Apr 17 2006, 09:29 PM
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it would be better to run linux on it.
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:29 AM
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Why? I not quiston Linux's ability or anything I just want to know why.
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(lumberjackmack12 @ Apr 12 2006, 07:08 AM) *

Erm I windows isn't open sourced. Correct me if I'm wrong but you need a source in order to port lol?


No, you don't need source to do anything. All you need is a set of opcodes and a decent hex editor. How'd you think they hack BIOSes? Windows almost runs on the original Xbox as I recall, it just gets stuck on a few generic drivers (PCI bus, etc).

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What I dont get is if everyone can write an app to run off WINDOWS MEDIA CENTER. Why cant they get one to run/work mouse like controls and just send a type of on screen display. If they can get an emu running from WMC then you should be able to control windows from an app or somthing from the 360. so instead of running the os on 360 just control it and display it thru wmc. hell, just a thought.


Intergrated applications for windows media center are HTML files. You could probably do wonders with flash and javascript, but it's still not going to be very useful, and I doubt that idea'd work. 'Course, I could be wrong and it could be possible to write a semi-VNC app in flash (I presume that's what you mean), but not without a lot of work.

QUOTE(555ETHEN @ Apr 18 2006, 09:36 AM) *

Why? I not quiston Linux's ability or anything I just want to know why.


[sarcasm]Because the poster above you <3s linux and will happily assasinate anyone who tries to port the unholyness of windows tongue.gif.[/sarcasm]

Because the source code for linux is easily avaliable, and in all seriousness noone's gunna port windows to the xbox 360. It's just not feasable to convert opcodes by hand, by the time your done you'd have recoded a huge chunk of the operating system. Of course, someone may do it, but expect an Xbox 3 (Xbox 720?) before then.
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post Apr 18 2006, 08:26 AM
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Getting something to run on completely different architecture isn't something you just do with a hex editor.

Windows and the original XBox are both x86 based. The 360 is PowerPC based.
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post Apr 18 2006, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(netdroid9 @ Apr 18 2006, 12:50 AM) *

No, you don't need source to do anything. All you need is a set of opcodes and a decent hex editor. How'd you think they hack BIOSes? Windows almost runs on the original Xbox as I recall, it just gets stuck on a few generic drivers (PCI bus, etc).

As another poster points out, this is feasible for the original Xbox (but still hard enough that nobody has done it) but a cross-architecture port is not; the only likely way would be to emulate the entire x86 PC, which could trivially be done by porting Linux and then just running bochs or qemu or whatever.

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Intergrated applications for windows media center are HTML files. You could probably do wonders with flash and javascript, but it's still not going to be very useful, and I doubt that idea'd work. 'Course, I could be wrong and it could be possible to write a semi-VNC app in flash (I presume that's what you mean), but not without a lot of work.

It wouldn't be impossible to write a VNC client in JS and DHTML, given a bit of server-side voodoo - serve up images representing VNC region updates and use an XMLHttpRequest ajax-y channel thingie to keep track of what the hell is going on. Anyone who actually tried this would probably go nuts, though wink.gif

As for "why not just port linux", people seem to be missing the point: of course people are going to port linux to the 360 as soon as there's a way to run anything on it. This is going to happen anyway wink.gif Speculating on the porting of *other* OSes to the 360 doesn't stop Linux being ported, so it seems like a stupid point to try and make. (Of course, suggesting porting Windows to the 360 is a stupid point in itself because of the architecture issue, but hey, that doesn't justify countering with another stupid point *grin*).

Nobody goes onto the Linux forum here and starts posting "lol why r u wastin ur time wif this linux s**t, port windoze insted" so why do the opposite?
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post Apr 19 2006, 01:29 AM
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Umm....why post anything agianst either one? Face it Linux and Windows aren't that much different [well I mean they are but....] Its just the people behind each OS that I think makes this "Oppisition". Linux comes from a college student doing the stuff we do, lets just say the "Rebels" and then there's the big bad corperation that seems to squish everybody else, lets say the "Communists". But that doesn't mean one is better then the other,they both have there goods and bads, I like both and run both, but not all people are going to like both, narrowminded human nature I guess, whatever I just wanted to get some ideas off my mind and maybe start something

[who ever flames me first bantering and say I'm an idiot I give them a kudo, now go jack-off in the corner nerd, I don't care]
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