Quake 4 On X360 Worse Than Pc Version!, Lower res textures and lower color depth Options

[Wedding-shirt]

Wedding-shirt their are plenty of games for xbox 360 that blow quake 4 for pc out of the water. Thats all I'm going to say, think about it.

I agree with you. I thought the COD 2 video looked very good. A lot better than Quake 4. I was expecting it to look like shit because it's another PC port but i'm impressed with it.

I just don't understand why it can't port Quake 4 perfectly. I'm seriously depressed about that shit.

[brooksie48]

OK now were finding common ground. The dev team has everything to do with it, and I guess they couldn't/or haven't had enough time to exploit the 360's power.

[VariableElite]

I agree with you. I thought the COD 2 video looked very good. A lot better than Quake 4. I was expecting it to look like shit because it's another PC port but i'm impressed with it.

I just don't understand why it can't port Quake 4 perfectly. I'm seriously depressed about that shit.

Because they're not fucking done yet?

I think you're taking this whole 360 thing way too hard. In the end, it's only a video game console, not a cure for cancer.

[miggidy]

Wedding-shirt, what happened to you?  You use to be rational and level headed, now you seem bitter, mean and jaded.

This cat has been a Sony groupie at heart for as long as I can remember.
So none of this surprises me at all.
I find it quite comical.

*Waites for Wedding's defense*

[thax]

There is absolutely no excuse for the X360 not to run that game flawlessly. If a 9800 pro can run Doom 3 pretty good and a 6800 GT can toy with it, there's no reason in the world the X360 should have to tone down the textures and color depth.

If you read my post the color depth is not toned down, it runs at full 32bit color. There is at least one excuse why the x360 can't run the game flawlessly, the game isn't finished yet.

This system doesn't really compete with the PS3.
...
P.S. I bet the PS3 can run Quake 4 perfectly.

There isn't any way to know yet. The GPU in the x360 is slightly more powerful than the PS3. Carmack himself states that he prefers the x360 over the PS3. I don't understand your line of reasoning and your rebuttle statements are blind conjecture.

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000040054627/
"He’s gone on the record at the recent QuakeCon with a killer quote that the Xbox 360 is ”the best development environment” he’s seen for a console."

"According to Carmack, the Xbox 360 has the best architecture and development tools so the game devs can do their jobs better. In contrast he thinks the PS3 will be harder to develop for with inital games being disappointing as a result."

This would indicate that the PS3 may not run Carmacks games as well.

[Deftech]

If you read my post the color depth is not toned down, it runs at full 32bit color. There is at least one excuse why the x360 can't run the game flawlessly, the game isn't finished yet.
There isn't any way to know yet. The GPU in the x360 is slightly more powerful than the PS3. Carmack himself states that he prefers the x360 over the PS3.  I don't understand your line of reasoning and your rebuttle statements are blind conjecture.

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000040054627/
"He’s gone on the record at the recent QuakeCon with a killer quote that the Xbox 360 is ”the best development environment” he’s seen for a console."

"According to Carmack, the Xbox 360 has the best architecture and development tools so the game devs can do their jobs better. In contrast he thinks the PS3 will be harder to develop for with inital games being disappointing as a result."

This would indicate that the PS3 may not run Carmacks games as well.

[Mjkthirdeye]

Well I hate to but it'd be so wrong if I didn't

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[lex luther]

If you read my post the color depth is not toned down, it runs at full 32bit color. There is at least one excuse why the x360 can't run the game flawlessly, the game isn't finished yet.
There isn't any way to know yet. The GPU in the x360 is slightly more powerful than the PS3. Carmack himself states that he prefers the x360 over the PS3.  I don't understand your line of reasoning and your rebuttle statements are blind conjecture.

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000040054627/
"He’s gone on the record at the recent QuakeCon with a killer quote that the Xbox 360 is ”the best development environment” he’s seen for a console."

"According to Carmack, the Xbox 360 has the best architecture and development tools so the game devs can do their jobs better. In contrast he thinks the PS3 will be harder to develop for with inital games being disappointing as a result."

This would indicate that the PS3 may not run Carmacks games as well.

Agree


Let these ps3 fanboys prase the system all they want.........hell let them also hold out for ps3 thinking it's some kind of super beast or somthing. I fear they will be dispointed that it was not what they thought it was going to be.. Sony puts the least amount of good hardware they can so they don't loose money. The ps3 is just a marketing tool for their cell processor to show it off their going to start putting the cell in T.Vs all kinds of electronics their doing just like they did with ps2 focusing more on the cpu then the graphics engine hints thats why ps2 had bad jaggys. You never read much about graphics on ps3 80% of what you read is on the cell and i think it's more less a waste because a console can only do so much any way your not going to see the cells full workings on a console once again their focusing on the wrong thing again. Micorsoft seems to have its ducks row and know what its all about.

[brooksie48]

Next time I won't be so nice wedding-shirt. I didn't want to start a war like before but it happened anyways. @Thaz

[incognegro]

what a waste of energy this thread is.....why did everybody reply, isnt he on the ignore list!?

[Wedding-shirt]

This cat has been a Sony groupie at heart for as long as I can remember.
So none of this surprises me at all.
I find it quite comical.

*Waites for Wedding's defense*

I'm not a Sony or MS fan, i'm a fan of GAMES. But I love strong competition because it gives us better products.

I don't want Sony to die or MS to die, I want them both to keep fighting, with ups and downs because like that WE win in the end.

I'm more than a little concerned about MS because I feel they're making big mistakes and it may prove to be their end.

I don't want that. I want them to both be strong.

And I also like Nintendo in there as well. I think they will do well this time because they're shooting for a different market and they make great games.

I'm just a fan of videogames. When I say that the Xbox 360 games look like crap it's because they do IMHO. Not because I am a Sony fanboy or whatever.

Xbox 360 right now looks to me like a PC and that just isn't good enough to compete against a next gen console like the PS3.

Of course only time will tell but i'm more than just a little concerned. I hope MS pulls through.

[spearfree]

In my own opinion, I think this has to do with developers. If you take a look at the game called Fahrenheit for PC and XBOX, you will notice that the graphics on PC are way more Superior than those on xbox. Now my question is why? Because the developers are too fucking lazy to make the game look on xbox as good as it does on PC (or versa) OR they simply hate to develop for console.

One more thing! NO ONE can tell me nor make me believe that xbox cannot run if not better, the same graphics as PC for that game (Fahrenheit).

Now the same thing applies for the 360 and the Q4...I believe that both consoles (360 and PS3) will KILL PC graphics (at least for time being).


Now you feel free to say anything you want, but know that I wont give a shit cuz I will be eating , drinking and watching TV while you do that!!


Here is to the next-gen !

[mert8431]

It doesn't surprise me that some developers may be cutting corners so they can meet there launch date for X360 (That is still a launch title isn't it?)

Its tough not to expect some games being under-developed because 360 is only months away...

Within a years time we will finally see what the 360 can handle. If anything's the next dreamcast it will be Nintendo's new system, but thats my opinion. If Japanese have such small homes that they can't fit a xbox in it, there not going to have room to run around and fling a controller in the air to play a game...



Quake sucks anyways.

[Jason9875]

This doesn't surprise me, just look at Doom 3 (Same engine!) it likes having 512MB of memory dedicated to textures alone for its Ultra Quality, and thats when computers have a SEPERATE set of memory for the CPU!

Though having said that, one can get Ultra quality to run just fine on a higher level 256MB card, I can; just need to up the AGP Aperature to 256MB.

And as for the colordepth, I'm sure that was just a screw up, the difference in performance of 32bit or 16 bit just doesn't warrant the use of 16bit.

[Moleman]

Wedding-shirt, we know much less about the PS3, and yet you already KNOW it's better? Lets go with that approach for a second. If 512 MB is not enough memory for textures, then Sony is SOL. Only half of their memory is used for the RSX. The other half goes to the Cell. So 256 vs ~384 is probably what we will run into, memory wise. The 360 is about flexibility. No hard feelings, just don't throw MS out of the picture just yet.

This post has been edited by Moleman: Sep 18 2005, 11:18 PM