Burning 360 Backup With Nero Options

[Infamous]

ive searched but didnt find the answer to this... burning an iso with nero because this one dont have a video partition so i cant use dvd decryter, and clone cd give me the funny error that theres not enough room on the disc and then it shows that i have enough.. so imma try nero... already have it going so i hope it wont coaster, but i realized that i didnt set any type of layer break, in dvd D the layer is set, and in clone, the layer is in the dvd file, but with nero, i dont know if its a way for it there.....

[NeoKast]

Welcome to coasterville, population = YOU.

[Infamous]

and a coaster it was..... so whats my options.. cant use dvd decryter cause no video partition, clone cd is all jacked up, and cant set layer break in nero.

[NeoKast]

Use SS merger or isobuilder to merge it with the video partition, then use Decrypter.

[Infamous]

how do i do that... i thought u could only patch with the ss... is that a new feature in 1.5... and where am im suppose to get the video partition, or is there a way to extract that from another backup iso.

[Infamous]

here is how to solve the problem if anyone else needs it....

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=516786

[NeoKast]

Isobuilder comes with a blank360.iso file. This is the video partition. Isobuilder just merges your game.iso image from isobuster with the blank360.iso file, and your ss.bin.

With SS Merger, you can pick the game image, and then choose Insert Iso (experimental) and specify the blank360.iso file from isobuilder. I'm not sure if picking Pad With Blank (xtreme style) does exactly the same thing or not.

What version of CloneCD are you using?

So, does DVD Decrypter simply have a problem with games with blank video partitions?

[Infamous]

as i said in my previous post... that method just worked for me... give me my video partition... no need to mess with shady clone cd

[PSoff]

as i said in my previous post... that method just worked for me... give me my video partition... no need to mess with shady clone cd

I don't get it, I've made successful rips with ISOBuster, ran the xbox360.bat file (merging SS.bin and Blank.iso), but DVD Decrypter/ImgBurn still wouldn't like it because the video partition is a dummy file using this method, and DVD Decrypter/ImgBurn wants an actual video partition, so I just started using the wxRipper method and its worked every since.

Edit: I noticed after reading the thread you linked to, that ther's a tool that allows you to load an image containing a dummy video partition, I assume this is what you did?

This post has been edited by PSoff: May 31 2006, 04:03 AM

[Infamous]

it actually adds the real video partition to it so that it works with dvd decrypter... i use the wxripper method as well.. but some games like ncaa college hoops and tomb raider, you have to edit in wxripper, but in doing so, you dont get the video partition..( i change the start of the 3 lines to J's), then you take that 6.8 gb iso and patch it with the ss file which will then add the blank video to it as well, so now how have the 7.05 gb file but still blank iso, now u use that tool to fix this problem... hope this is clear cause there alot of people dont know or dont want to help.

[ViNCe_V]

Okay, time for a rundown of what's going on.

When you create a backup using IsoBuster you get a Game.iso image that is actually all the game data. You need to combine this with a SS.bin and a blank360.iso file to get a working backup. This is known as the xtreme method. The problem arises from using the blank360.iso file. This file is actually just a bunch of 0's one after the other (this is why you can compress the file so efficiently). What this does is just add "padding" to the beginning of the backup image so that the SS.bin is in the correct location for the firmware to read.

Why don't DVD Decrypter/ImgBurn do not recognize this you ask? The reason is because instead of the 0's these programs expect a description of the file, or some real data. In reality there is no reason to have 250+MB of blank data at the beginning of your image so these programs can not deal with it.

The solution! You will need a backup created from the wxripper method, this backup should have a video partition located at the start of the disc (instead of all 0's). You then use the tool found from my tutorial and you can use this wxripper backup image to extract the video partition (SS Merger has a similiar feature). The tool I use produces a file called backup.data and you can use this file to "fix" all your backups created using the xtreme files.

Finally, if you use my tool and get the backup.data file, then you can go one step farther and rename this file to blank360.iso and use this file INSTEAD and you will get working backups for DVD Decrypter/ImgBurn using the xtreme method. All the problems are because the ORIGINAL blank360.iso is just a file filled with 0's. CloneCD works because it doesn't care what format the backup is in, DVD Decrypter/ImgBurn on the other hand do, so that is why you are having problems.

For further clarification take a look at the tutorials in my signature.

On a final note, SS Merger can handle all of these splitting tasks for you as well. The only reason to use my tool instead is because it provides a progress status while it's doing the task and because it can apply the backup.data or video partition to a incorrect image directly, without the need to split that image apart first. So basically once you have the backup.data from my tool, you can simply patch/fix all your improper backups directly, no need for extra disk space or anything like that. SS Merger is a great program though

This post has been edited by ViNCe_V: May 31 2006, 07:24 AM

[NeoKast]

Or, how about SOLUTION: Use CloneCD because it works? Less trouble too, unless you're already using the wxripper method.

[ViNCe_V]

Or, how about SOLUTION: Use CloneCD because it works? Less trouble too, unless you're already using the wxripper method.

I have two burners that CloneCD doesn't work with, plus it costs money. I'd rather use a program I've been using for years if it only needs me to create a new blank360.iso (backup.data) file once. No big deal for me, but if CloneCD works for you, go for it.

[NeoKast]

Don't get me wrong, I like your fix. I wouldn't mind having the real video partition to inject into my rips, but unless someone uses the wxripper to get it, then you're getting into warez discussion when describing how to rip it out of an existing image. I like the wxripper method, but it costs money too.

[Infamous]

Don't get me wrong, I like your fix. I wouldn't mind having the real video partition to inject into my rips, but unless someone uses the wxripper to get it, then you're getting into warez discussion when describing how to rip it out of an existing image. I like the wxripper method, but it costs money too.

how is that talk about warez, its not.. if im using a video from a game that i already own, get your facts right. and o yea... i didnt use the isobuster method at all.. i always use the wxripper method, but some games like ncaa basketball you have to edit the layout in wxripper for it to rip, which will produce an iso similar to the xtreme way with no video partitoin.