Video/games Freezing After X-clamps Fix.. I'm About To Give Up!, 3 ROD no longer appearing but games freezing.. Options

[TPG2k]

Gentlemen,

I've been at this for over 2 weeks now and I have run out of possible ideas. Was originally getting ROD with code 0102. Xbox was manufactured in Oct 2005. Performed the X-Clamp replacement along with the proper Artic Silver 5 compound and this has solved the ROD. The Box turns on no problem each and every time it's turned on.

The current issue is gameplay - as soon as the box heats up (20 - 45 minutes) depending on how hard the GPU is working the game freezes. Where ever I am in the game the screenshot remains paused on the screen, the Xbox displays one green light and the controller is no longer responsive.

Only way to unfreeze the xbox360 is to manually power off the box. Now if you power on the 360 immediately after the freeze it actually turns on again without any issues however once the Game is loaded it's only good for approximately 2 min then freeze again.

Obviously it's heat or motherboard flexing related. I'm about to give up and possibly purchase and Elite however this is my last attempt to solve this issue.

Your advise and input on the scenario would be greatly appreciated, also your advise on the Elite is also welcome. Last thing I need is another brick.

[johnny124]

I did the x-clamp fix this past week too, and have -exactly- the same problem.

Anyone help us?
Don't know if it's the same on yours, but also noticed that when it freezes:
- the overheated 2xrol doesn't come on
- the fans aren't on full pelt at all

[TPG2k]

I did the x-clamp fix this past week too, and have -exactly- the same problem.

Anyone help us?
Don't know if it's the same on yours, but also noticed that when it freezes:
- the overheated 2xrol doesn't come on
- the fans aren't on full pelt at all

I don't get any Red lights anymore what so ever. I always boots to the dashboard without any issues, and it will run for ever if I leave it in the dashboard. Simply freezes during Gameplay and I need to manually reset the box. Xbox360 is basicly useless at the moment!

[I_Solar_I]

mine did that at first... but then i took out the fans, and overheated it... TRUST ME! it will turn to 2 lights.. .i promise.. then put the drive and fans back in and it plays fine (for now)

[TPG2k]

mine did that at first... but then i took out the fans, and overheated it... TRUST ME! it will turn to 2 lights.. .i promise.. then put the drive and fans back in and it plays fine (for now)

How long do you recommend I leave it overheat for? 1 min , 2 min ??

[TPG2k]

mine did that at first... but then i took out the fans, and overheated it... TRUST ME! it will turn to 2 lights.. .i promise.. then put the drive and fans back in and it plays fine (for now)

Great news! My 360 is operational!

OK first thing is kudos to I_Solar_I for the advice on overheating the CPU in order to re-flow the bad solder joints.

To this point I still blame the spring update on causing the 3 ROD on my box. 3 minutes after applying that update the box died! Was working perfectly for almost 2 years.. Anyway that is my own personal opinion.

Below is the list of today's sequence that I performed to finally get the 360 operational again!

1 - Yesterday I had cleaned the CPU and GPU to the point I could see myself in the reflexion of each chip.
2 - Installed a very thin layer of Artic Silver 5 on both Chips. Re-installed both heatsinks using X-Clamp replacement method.
3 - Today based on the help from this forum I decided to tighten the GPU heatsinks to the point where I would get the 3 ROD. Then I loosened them by 1/8" until the unit booted up. The reason I did this was to verify that the heatsink was as tight as possible prior to the box going back to 3 ROD.
4-With the DVD drive still connected I simply moved it off the heatsink and placed it to the left of the box (power and sata connector still connected)
5 - I unplugged the power from the fans
6 - Turn on the Xbox and waited for the green lights to turn to 2 red lights. This simply means the CPU is overheating. Once the 2 red lights where displayed I left the box powered on for an additional 2 minutes.
7 - Unplug the 360 and let it cool down for 30 - 45 min.
8 - Boot up the Xbox and verify that it boots to the dashboard.
9 - Based on what I mentioned about the Spring update i decided to connect the 360 back to the Internet (I don't use live) and see if a new update would be detected.
10 - Downloaded new Update (no clue if this fixed anything!)
11 - With the Internet still connected to the 360 I swapped all 30 of my games one by one into the drive and to my surprise 85% of the games had M$ updates for them. (Game Patches, etc)

I played BIOSOCK for 2 hours tonight and then had to leave, but normally it would only run for 3 minutes. The fans are running properly and the heat that is being expelled by the fans is extremely hot which means it's doing it's job keeping the hot air out of the unit!

[johnny124]

Well done and thanks for detailed path you took

I'm now convinced my problem lies with the GPU so will be running through those steps once my articlean arrives (in the UK so no Goo Go or similar )

[n@utilus]

i think its not the gpu anymore (after xclamp mod no more red lights)!!
its the rams !??

look at the other threads !!

cooling the rams could/should solve the issue....

[reddragon105]

Did you use a shim?

I fixed a 0102 error by replacing the X-Clamps the other day and it fixed the 3 red lights, but games just froze abruptly a few minutes in each time. Added a shim to the GPU, now it works perfectly and has been running for hours.

[n@utilus]

reddragon105

dou you really think its still the gpu when its freezing from time to time after a xclamp mod??

what about the rams ??

[brandogg]

A software update isn't going to cause the solder joints to go bad on your CPU/GPU.

[TPG2k]

A software update isn't going to cause the solder joints to go bad on your CPU/GPU.

Well my theory is that if the software update has changed the functionality of the GPU (supports 1080) and is now demanding more processing power as well as generating more heat from the GPU it could at the end of the day cause just enough extra heat to take an already weakened motherboard to the point of failure.

I figured posting what I did in order could potentially help someone else out when they stumbled onto this post. We all need as much help as possible to fix M$ mess.

Currently waiting for my Talismoon Fan's to arrive!

[n@utilus]

i use both,the talismoon and the xcm add on fan(with a hole over it) and i get those freezings !

[TPG2k]

i use both,the talismoon and the xcm add on fan(with a hole over it) and i get those freezings !

I'm avoiding the XCM fan at the moment as I hear it's extremely loud. Have you done anything to try and cool the memory? Also are you pulling power from your DVD Drive to power the XCM FAN? Some post say this causes the DVD Drive to have issues and it's not receiving it's full required power.

[deckameron]

Hi everyone;

I'm having problems with my units too. I have one with 0102 and another one with 0022. I´ve done eveything you guys said before and nothing has solved my problems. By the way, whats a SHIM?

Thank you guys

Best regards

Douglas Alves

This post has been edited by deckameron: Sep 19 2007, 02:17 PM