Nme 2.0/infectus 2/flashing?, Best to choose ? Options

[disoneviet]

What is the best option to choose out of the 3? I just want to play back-ups of my originals, nothing else. Also, mind the fact that I have no SATA card, Samsung DVD drive, SATA cord for the flashing. So price isn't a factor in choosing a modchip or flashing. Also, if I choose to flash the firmware, what happens when the 360 wants to update? (Or is this just flashing the DVD drive's fw?) Another question I have is, if I choose to get a modchip instead, is there any updates I have to do after its installed?

Thanks for the help.

[quantass0]

I am new to the whole thing as well. I keep hearing about Maximus 79 passkey and criticism of NME 2 for some reason. I really dont understand why.

For me i'm leaning towards NME 2.0 because i have a Hitachi 79fk drive and dont want to have to go thru the additional hassle of sata card and firmware flashing. apparently with nme 2 its just solder on the modchip and you're done whereas infectus and maximus you not only have to do that but get the sata and flash firmware. I get the impression nme 2 is safer but i'm sure many here will say none of them is safe.

Again i am seriously leanign towards nme 2 because it seems like less hassles. thepunisher has one and hasnt had any probs.

[beatendown666]

I am new to the whole thing as well. I keep hearing about Maximus 79 passkey and criticism of NME 2 for some reason. I really dont understand why.

For me i'm leaning towards NME 2.0 because i have a Hitachi 79fk drive and dont want to have to go thru the additional hassle of sata card and firmware flashing. apparently with nme 2 its just solder on the modchip and you're done whereas infectus and maximus you not only have to do that but get the sata and flash firmware. I get the impression nme 2 is safer but i'm sure many here will say none of them is safe.

Again i am seriously leanign towards nme 2 because it seems like less hassles. thepunisher has one and hasnt had any probs.

one major reason people criticise the NME 2.0 is you will get banned if you go on xbox live where if you do the passkey then flash and remove the passkey you will be pretty safe playing backups on live, all though there is still a chance you could get banned.

What is the best option to choose out of the 3? I just want to play back-ups of my originals, nothing else. Also, mind the fact that I have no SATA card, Samsung DVD drive, SATA cord for the flashing. So price isn't a factor in choosing a modchip or flashing. Also, if I choose to flash the firmware, what happens when the 360 wants to update? (Or is this just flashing the DVD drive's fw?) Another question I have is, if I choose to get a modchip instead, is there any updates I have to do after its installed?

Thanks for the help.

what kind of drive is in your 360?

[Ranger72]

Flashing is the easier safer method.

However since you have a Hitachi 79 drive nothing is really too easy.

[thepunisher302]

Well, I have been using the NME 2.0 for 6 months now. When it's properly installed it works flawlessly. If you do the complete install meaning you put on the Network OFF and the USB OFF wires it automatically disconnects network access when playing backups. It's a pretty fail safe chip for me, although I am using it on a BenQ drive which is probably the easiest of any. So, in short if you want to play backups online you'll probably get banned anyway. The beauty of a chip is that it loads your factory firmware when a real game is inserted (or you turn it on without holding down the power button), and then it loads a hacked firmware when you insert a backup (holding down the power button for a second or so). Soldering is usually the hard part and if you have a Hitachi drive it's not as much of a cake walk as a BenQ or Samsung.

Personally if you have the money and don't want the hassle of flashing and reflashing then go with the NME 2.0

[Havok]

The NME chip has the illusion of being safe... you really don't know. People with chips have been banned in the past just like others (they probably went on live with backups...)

Microsoft has full control of the system. They could do OFFLINE checks if they really wanted to and then when you played your offline backup with the chip you would be banned.

[thepunisher302]

How exactly would an offline check work if your network plug is disabled upon loading a backup? If they checked your system with an original in they would see the original firmware loaded. Although the notion of an "offline" check sounds grand, I'm not entirely sure that would be possible. It's been rumored that they could find a fluctuation in the power going to the mobo, but that has also been discredited. I'd like to know anyone with an NME 2.0 with it being properly installed who has also been banned. If you don't have names, then I can't take you seriously.

[milamber]

How exactly would an offline check work if your network plug is disabled upon loading a backup? If they checked your system with an original in they would see the original firmware loaded. Although the notion of an "offline" check sounds grand, I'm not entirely sure that would be possible. It's been rumored that they could find a fluctuation in the power going to the mobo, but that has also been discredited. I'd like to know anyone with an NME 2.0 with it being properly installed who has also been banned. If you don't have names, then I can't take you seriously.

The data would be logged during offline use and uploaded the next time you go online, just like your Gamerscore and list of games played, etc.

[thepunisher302]

So you're saying you have evidence of the backups being detected using a chip (specifically one with a network off feature) and then them being sent to Microsoft upon loading an original and going online? Please do post a link, I'd love to see what you've discovered.

[Ranger72]

So you're saying you have evidence of the backups being detected using a chip (specifically one with a network off feature) and then them being sent to Microsoft upon loading an original and going online? Please do post a link, I'd love to see what you've discovered.

There is no evidence of anything. Nobody knows how Microsoft detects anything. All we know is that people with the chips has been banned just like people without them has. All we are saying is that the chips are not any more safer than the firmware hacks.

However if an illusion of safety is good enough for you then that is all that really matters.

However the only 100% sure way NOT to get banned is to not mod your console to begin with. If you accept the risk then you accept the consequences.

[thepunisher302]

There is no evidence of anything. Nobody knows how Microsoft detects anything. All we know is that people with the chips has been banned just like people without them has. All we are saying is that the chips are not any more safer than the firmware hacks.

However if an illusion of safety is good enough for you then that is all that really matters.

However the only 100% sure way NOT to get banned is to not mod your console to begin with. If you accept the risk then you accept the consequences.

I'm still not sure why you keep saying "illusion of safety", I haven't heard of anyone with an NME 2.0 with Network Off installed that have been banned. That's all I'm saying. Until I see compelling evidence of people being banned with it, I don't see how an argument can stand up. Evidence is the basis for any good theory, I don't see any mounted against the NME 2.0 . But like you said, if someone is that worried about getting banned, they should probably reconsider modding their system.

[Havok]

The fact is that MS does ban people. Everyone thought that the original solution was 100% safe and it wasn't a whole bunch of people got banned.

Why do you think there are 10 revisions Xtreme firmware?? Because MS starting using new protections and the "scene" had to combat them.

It is fact that MS has secretly changed the ban detection method in the past and no one noticed for MONTHS when MS decided to pull a switch and ban everyone.

If you want to remain ignorant. Then you can choose to do whatever you want.

And just because something hasn't happened yet.. does not make it a truth.

As far as offline checks. In the fall there is going to be a MAJOR dashboard revision. Maybe this new software will log everytime you play a backup. The thing is we really don't know. I am not saying it will happen but it is a possibility.

I have had a firmware flashed modded system since launch and am not banned. Therefore my method appears just as safe as your modchip.

[sturdycracker]

I just recently started getting back into modding my consoles, and as im reading there maybe a way for microsoft to capture each time you play a backup offline. What if you take an image of your xbox without playing a backup and then one after youve played a back up and compare the images, that would tell you if microsoft is indeed logging you. And if they are then maybe we can figure out a way to erase the log once we know where its located.

[Reaper527]

I just recently started getting back into modding my consoles, and as im reading there maybe a way for microsoft to capture each time you play a backup offline. What if you take an image of your xbox without playing a backup and then one after youve played a back up and compare the images, that would tell you if microsoft is indeed logging you. And if they are then maybe we can figure out a way to erase the log once we know where its located.

you would have to know where they are keeping that data, and odds are its encrypted.

the data also won't be on the harddrive or the memory card, as the system is able to track some changes without these devices being present.