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> Building Your Own Scuf Styled Controller
VibeYo
post Jan 29 2013, 11:43 PM
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Hello i am kind of new around here i was curious where abouts the soldering points were for the A button to add a paddle to the right handside of my controller. Also i was wondering on the actual Tactile switch it has 4 legs/prongs which legs/prongs do the 2 wires go onto ? Much appreciated in advance regards Vibe
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:13 PM
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If you look at the tutorials section at the top of the forum threads, you will find all kinds of information about controllers. Welcome to the forums.
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:05 AM
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Pics should be back now. Sorry my web server was down. I have revised this a bit and the latest ones are better than my prototype above. I also use nuts on the inside so the paddles don't strip. This causes issues with some controllers since you have to relocate elec components to make room.
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post Mar 14 2013, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(OKDeric @ Mar 1 2013, 08:05 PM) *

I have revised this a bit and the latest ones are better than my prototype above. I also use nuts on the inside so the paddles don't strip. This causes issues with some controllers since you have to relocate elec components to make room.


I'd be really interested to see some pics of your revised controllers. Using your tutorial I made one of my own, so thank you!
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post Mar 20 2013, 11:34 PM
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I would also like to see the re-done ones myself. biggrin.gif

I'm going to do this, replace analogs with PS2 ones for better reliability, and maybe add another set of buttons somewhere.

Also I own a scuf controller and anybody with trigger stops will notice how noisy and well painful they are so I'd recommend getting some o-rings and attaching them to your screws! Its so stupidly simple I'm surprised this isn't included with the actual scuf controllers...
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post Mar 26 2013, 02:48 AM
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OK some updates to this....

First of all it is nice this tutorial has been used. When I wrote this there was only one video on youtube describing how to make a Scuf style controller. That video was only about adding HUGE buttons to the bottom, not adding trigger stops or paddles. Now there are many of them and a few you can tell they followed this tutorial. Also I've seen this tutorial posted on a few other sites as well. It's nice DIY people are able to mod something that they may not be able to afford otherwise.

All screws are 4-40 by 1/4 long.

I now move the switches up higher. They are basically slightly above the screw in the battery compartment for reference. This allows the chat pad adapter to fit. This also lets the left switch fit in the corner of the D pad support so you don't have to file it down. I've seen people cutting the support off and I don't know why you would do something to make the D pad worse than it already is.


I also sand the bottom switches down to where they are just outside the surface of the controller. This requires less flex of the paddles which would crack over time and keeps the paddles closer to the body so you don't accidentally hit them when setting the controller down.

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As stated previously, I have added nuts to the inside. At the top most screw for each paddle. My personal controller stripped out and I did this as a makeshift fix and started adding it to others I've done. Originally I used spring nuts (the one on the right) but found they would stay opened up after a few times defeating the purpose. So I started using a standard nut. This causes issues with the CG2 controller. The CG2 has part of it's RF components in this location. I ended up moving mine out of the way. Once I attach the paddles I cover the nuts in hotglue

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I also added a second screw below the first. This keeps the paddles from rotating when tightening them down.

Under the paddle screw heads you can see plastic washers, this allows me to loosen the screws and pivot the paddles slightly left or right based on user preference.

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Also since some may ask, the white paddles in this pic are actually cut from an old xbox case I had given to me. I wanted to mix it up a bit since this controller has a black and white theme to it. Also the bottom of the controller is covered with duplicolor Truck bed liner. My hands sweat when I play and all paints I tried would rub off. I used a rubber coating and it would dent easily. The truck coating has held up for now. if you are spraying it on a white controller I recommend using black vinyl paint over it first.

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post Apr 8 2013, 05:17 AM
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very nice work. and thanks for tutorial. Since reading the original post on how to make a scuff controller, I am actually attempting to make one for myself. I have seen a few youtube videos on how to make a home version. but i dont like the idea of "scraping the black pads" to solder the wire under the buttons.. Is there any chance there is a wiring diagram on where the solder points are so i can solder it to the back of the board?? Or does anyone here have a picture of where the soldering points are??

Thanks in advance... Great forum by the way..

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post Apr 11 2013, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(ReLaPse @ Apr 8 2013, 12:17 AM) *

very nice work. and thanks for tutorial. Since reading the original post on how to make a scuff controller, I am actually attempting to make one for myself. I have seen a few youtube videos on how to make a home version. but i dont like the idea of "scraping the black pads" to solder the wire under the buttons.. Is there any chance there is a wiring diagram on where the solder points are so i can solder it to the back of the board?? Or does anyone here have a picture of where the soldering points are??

Thanks in advance... Great forum by the way..


ReLaPse, RDC has a ton of PCB layouts/mappings you can find in the pinned topic at the top "Faq, Tutorials, Guides, And Other Information", you need to determine what type of board you have so you can figure out which board layout you need to look at and the TP points it will utilize. A combo of this tutorial and the mappings from RDC helped me make my own.

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My hands are slightly larger so I have my paddles pointing inward to make them more ergonomically comfortable for me.
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post Apr 14 2013, 10:05 AM
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Just to confirm, the Lexan strips are 1/8" thick, correct?
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post Apr 15 2013, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(MeS Jazz @ Apr 14 2013, 05:05 AM) *

Just to confirm, the Lexan strips are 1/8" thick, correct?


I bought an 8" x 10" Lexan sheet from Lowes, it's actually .093", which I think is considered a nominal 1/8" thickness.
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post Apr 16 2013, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(WarPandaiG @ Apr 15 2013, 09:36 AM) *

I bought an 8" x 10" Lexan sheet from Lowes, it's actually .093", which I think is considered a nominal 1/8" thickness.

Thanks!
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post May 5 2013, 02:39 PM
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After reading this post I tried the adjustable trigger mod with some screws from an old, dead, xbox controller... works like a charm and it was FREE!

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post May 9 2013, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Areohbe @ May 5 2013, 09:39 AM) *

After reading this post I tried the adjustable trigger mod with some screws from an old, dead, xbox controller... works like a charm and it was FREE!



As long as you put the screws in the right place and they have more of a flat bottom (not a sharp point like a wood or drywall screw) they'll do the job. The socket set screw and such just make it look "pretty" and more of an "official" Scuf, but if it works dude, use what you have. I coincidentally work at a place that sells all the screws and tools needed (Industrial tool supplier), so I was able to get all the screws and tools for basically nothing.
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