QUOTE(cchance @ Nov 5 2006, 06:03 AM)
AND FINALLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY....
G. HDDVD IS WINNING... visually hddvd is whiping the floor with bluray movies, its been in all the reviews to date that hddvd has a crisper image with better special features and even their upscaling of dvd's has been superior... On top of that HDDVD media released and on the schedule for release is 3x as high as planned bluray releases, then theirs the important numbers... HDDVD movie sales in september (dont know the oct numbers) were up to 11 to 1 over bluray... up from augusts 8 to 1 sales rate of hddvd movies... not to mention hddvd is way ahead in hardware sales anyway... and that all was BEFORE the hddvd addon for the 360 started selling out everywhere... remember microsoft said 10M consoles by year end which by recent projections by the end of 06 they should be able to just break that 10M milestone... What does that mean????? That means 10 MILLION potential HDDVD users that can easily get a hddvd player for 200$ vs a ps3 for 600 (or bluray standalone for around 1000$) or even a hddvd standalone for 500-600$
I just wanted to comment on your math:
$200 (addon)+299 (core) = $500
same as a hddvd standard, or a ps3 core, but lacks HDMI DTS Audio and audio re-encodes.
10 million potential hd-dvd users, make sure you underline and bold potential.. because on the movie war. the 10 million ps3s that they will have in home next year will ALL be equiped with a hi-def audio player less cripped than the 360 one.
I can understand your destain for sony since you are obviously a fanboy, however when comparing blu-ray to hd-dvd - they are actually the SAME encoded files, any quality that people are comparing is based on the players available on the market. You do understand that blu-ray and HD-DVD are simply storage formats.. The actual Hd-def movie files on each disc are compatible.. either VC1 or H264 encoded. That means in theory copy protection aside, you could put a HD-DVD movie onto a blu-ray disc and have the exact same quality file. Its true sony has made mistakes.. Held back good titles on blu-ray and put out a few lousy encodes (however that was the studio's encoding departments not a fault of the technology). The technology behind the format war is storage media. You get more capacity on a blu-ray disc than you do on HD-DVD. Just an example of this.. the Lord of the Rings - Return of the King captured from C-More HD Satellite clocks in a 36 GB. This would not fit on an HD-DVD dual layer. It would need to be compressed at a lower rate, especially if it is to have extras and multiple audio-tracks.
While HD-DVD may be winning, its no suprise.. the good titles haven't come out yet, and there are few blu-ray players on the market.
Fact still remains, you won't be watching Sony Pictures/MGM/Fox on HD-DVD.. So you know if you are a fan of star wars/alien/bond etc. you'll be out of luck for now.
It's all too bad really, if they could have all agreed the consumers like us wouldn't have to suffer through this.
Also just for completeness here, because I'm stick of people always throwing out how expensive PS3 is:
$299 (core) + $199 (hd-addon) = $500
$399 (premium) + $199 (hd-add) = $600
In Xbox world for $500 you get
Wired Controller, no hard drive, Audio Crippled HD-DVD, NO HDMI
In PS3 world for $500 you get
Wireless Controller, 20 GB hard drive, Blu-Ray, HDMI
In Xbox world for $600 you get:
Wireless Controller, 20 GB hard drive, Audio Crippled HD-DVD, NO HDMI
In PS world for $600 you get
Wireless Controller, 60 GB hard drive, Built in Wifi, Blu-ray, HDMI, Memory reader Slots
For someone who wants the features the price comparison makes more sense. I'm not denying that someone without an HD- tv set wouldn't care about either the hd-dvd or the blu-rayThis post has been edited by puppydg68: Nov 5 2006, 04:15 PM