Samsung 0800 Questions Options

[Tron[ADS]]

I have bought an MS28 with the intention of leaving it permanantly connected up in a PC in 0800 mode.

According to the Textbook, The drive must be "flashed with the xtrm0800 firmware (from the very first firmware release) or with an Xtreme firmware and using the 0800 disc.

Seen as I am not going to be using it in a 360, I figure I would flash it with xtrm0800, so that I do not have to go messing with an Enable0800 disc every time I want to use it.

I have looked on Xbins under the "_old" firmware folder, but there are a multitude of older versions, but none labeled "xtrm0800", so I would be grateful if somone could advise the filename of what i need to download.

I asked on #fw and was advised to get Xtreme41, but after I have obtained it, I'm not sure its the correct file as the readme just goes on about using the enable0800 disc.

Anyone ?

[wfritts911]

When you flash a drive with the xtrm0800.bin firmware file its not pernament. Everytime you turn the xbox off it will go away and you will need to reflash it. Then enable0800 in the xtreme41 package is an iso thats meant to be burned to a disk and used to activate 0800 mode.

[Tron[ADS]]

When you flash a drive with the xtrm0800.bin firmware file its not pernament. Everytime you turn the xbox off it will go away and you will need to reflash it. Then enable0800 in the xtreme41 package is an iso thats meant to be burned to a disk and used to activate 0800 mode.

I see....

As I came on the scene around about xtreme5.1 time, ive missed what happened in the earlier days....My (seemingly incorrect) interpretation was that any old xtreme firmware could be made to go into 0800 mode by using the iso disc, but the xtreme0800 fw itself was used to put a samsung in a permenant 0800 mode (making it useless inside a 360). This is the impression the "textbook" gives me anyway.

So is there no way to make a drive permanantly in 0800 mode, and I have to mess around with a disk every time ?

Why does the "textbook" advise to EITHER boot to an 0800 disk on xtreme firmware, OR use xtrem0800 f/w ?

This post has been edited by Tron[ADS]: Jan 20 2008, 08:30 PM

[Toddler]

My (seemingly incorrect) interpretation was that any old xtreme firmware could be made to go into 0800 mode by using the iso disc, but the xtreme0800 fw itself was used to put a samsung in a permenant 0800 mode (making it useless inside a 360). This is the impression the "textbook" gives me anyway.

Your initial interpretation of Textbook's guide was correct, and the guy who answered you was wrong.

This post has been edited by Toddler: Jan 20 2008, 09:43 PM

[cory1492]

I have looked on Xbins under the "_old" firmware folder, but there are a multitude of older versions, but none labeled "xtrm0800"

When looking there, click on the date column to sort by date and get the earliest one. Should be something like "xxx_package.zip" IIRC.

[Tron[ADS]]

Excellent. Ill take another look when I get home from work. Thanks

[Tron[ADS]]

OK, ive located the firmware, and then I proceeded to build a power supply convertor to get the 3.3V to the drive, and I was able to dump the firmware out of it (I know I didnt need to do this). Once I knew I could communicate with the drive, I wrote the xtrem0800 firmware to the drive, no issues.
Then I proceeded to connect the drive up to the PC, but had a thought...how do I eject the drive...figured I was happy with the release button, I ejected the tray and popped a disk in and closed it manualy. Then I turned on the PC, and it hung on "starting windows xp"., so I then unplugged the sata cable and let windows start....put in the sata cable, and I got a machine freeze.
Then I figured it must be something to do with the eject wire (pin 3), which, as I wasnt sure what to do with, I had left disconnected. The diagram I had showed this wire switched between 3.3v and ground, so I figured 3.3v must be tray in, ground tray out. 3.3V didnt seem to do anything, so I tried ground, which again did nothing, until I let it go and the tray popped out. I then touched ground again and the tray went in.
I then figured it needed to be held at gnd, so I put a toggle switch in, which when I switch it, it ejects the tray, then I switch it back and the tray goes back in and stays in.
The once I connected the PC after a couple of attempts then did recognise the drive, and I currently have a game disc reading in with xbox backup creator.
It would seem its not as simple as I thought (ie just leave it permanantly connected), if Im having to mess around with toggle switches etc, but it does seem to be doing the job.

My question now is, am I doing the correct thing by switching pin 3 between ground and not connected, or should 3.3v be the other switch connection, as my diagram seems to indicate ?

[cory1492]

Not sure this will answer your question, but if you take a close look at the PCB of this and other similar adapters you can see there is a momentary switch on the line (like what you'd have in a keyboard, only closed/open when held down).

Whatever works?

[Tron[ADS]]

Not sure this will answer your question, but if you take a close look at the PCB of this and other similar adapters you can see there is a momentary switch on the line (like what you'd have in a keyboard, only closed/open when held down).

Whatever works?

Yeah I guess....It is working...just seems to behave a bit oddly....I have to say that theirs looks somewhat more professional than my cobbled together effort...and its probably cheaper than what I paid for the bits !