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> Jasper Xbox 360s on the Shelves?
Tyrannical
post Sep 30 2008, 02:01 PM
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I think Jaspers are a longer time away then we think.
There was a slight HW difference with the 60gb 360s, a pair of memory chips near the GPU were removed. Presumably because the two remaining were double capacity. I don't think theye would have bothered with that if Jaspers were only a month or so away.

I think they are saving the Jaspers for a "slim" 360, though I don't think it will be that much smaller.
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post Sep 30 2008, 02:19 PM
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i think we all agree that after checking this out that xbox-scene was quick to jump on this as NEWS, I second the idea to change this to Rumor until proof is shown
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post Sep 30 2008, 02:53 PM
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It's not a rumor, its 100% fake.
Anyone can post on that site and claim they have a Jasper. If you follow the comments associated with the Jasper claims its obvios how fake it is.

But for some reason it got picked up by a couple of blogs, and now the chatter is picking up in various forums. Kotaku still stinging from the cheapassgamer stunt has so far not reported it.

And this stupid story made a liar out of me. I've told people for months in forums that if Jaspers were out, it'd be on the front page of xbox-scene.
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post Sep 30 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(g-sas @ Sep 30 2008, 09:10 AM) *

I owned a Xenon 360 which I had to fix using the x-clamp method and the drive was bad, I had longer loading times in BF:BC than all the other players. So I waited a long time for that Jasper box.

Then I bought a Falcon with Benq yesterday, because I don't want a Liteon drive. The Falcon is in no way more silent than a Xenon and I really don't think the Jasper will be. It will be a little cooler and maybe need less power, but I don't think there will be a noticeable difference in noise production


If MS makes changes to the CPU or GPU, it will not reduce noise as it is coming from the fans and dvd drive.

The new updates are to make the system run cooler.
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post Sep 30 2008, 05:51 PM
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It seems there are no substantial evidence that Casper is out yet.

A way to identify the new GPU would be to compare it to the older revisions.
http://zkaerfdom.hostwq.net/_menue/GPU.php
http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Xbox_360_Revisions

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post Sep 30 2008, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(g-sas @ Sep 30 2008, 02:10 PM) *

I owned a Xenon 360 which I had to fix using the x-clamp method and the drive was bad, I had longer loading times in BF:BC than all the other players. So I waited a long time for that Jasper box.

Then I bought a Falcon with Benq yesterday, because I don't want a Liteon drive. The Falcon is in no way more silent than a Xenon and I really don't think the Jasper will be. It will be a little cooler and maybe need less power, but I don't think there will be a noticeable difference in noise production



The DVD drive creates the most noise so the fall update is going to be the best thing for that since you can install games to the hard drive.
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post Sep 30 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(darkshadow2k8 @ Sep 30 2008, 03:42 AM) *

whats so good about the jasper boards as oppused to the opus boards



opus only comes from the ms repair factories. it is a board that is similar to the falcon mobos, with the exception that it doesn't have hdmi. this allows them to re-use the cases from xenon and zeyphr systems. it is essentially a xenon with the rrod fixes done to it.

jasper is the next true revision, and actually brings a new chipset to the table.
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post Sep 30 2008, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Sep 30 2008, 02:23 PM) *

opus only comes from the ms repair factories. it is a board that is similar to the falcon mobos, with the exception that it doesn't have hdmi. this allows them to re-use the cases from xenon and zeyphr systems. it is essentially a xenon with the rrod fixes done to it.

jasper is the next true revision, and actually brings a new chipset to the table.


Any motherboard that will plug into a 175watt xbox 360 power supply is a Opus board. They are all over in stores mostly with lite-on drives and as well they have been coming back from microsoft. I am not sure about a non hdmi opus board. I dont think i have seen one.

The 205watt boards have a square pin in the center of the power plug on the back of the 360 on opus its missing.
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post Sep 30 2008, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Sep 30 2008, 08:26 PM) *

Any motherboard that will plug into a 175watt xbox 360 power supply is a Opus board. They are all over in stores mostly with lite-on drives and as well they have been coming back from microsoft. I am not sure about a non hdmi opus board. I dont think i have seen one.

The 205watt boards have a square pin in the center of the power plug on the back of the 360 on opus its missing.
You are confusing Falcon with Opus. Opus is not available to the general public on the high street and does not have HDMI. Opus mobos are basically the same as Falcons but with the HDMI removed. Like Reaper said you will only get one of these direct from Microsoft if you sent in an old Xenon. This saves Microsoft binning thousands of non HDMI compatible cases and prevents people intentionally RROD'ing their old Xenons to get a new HDMI 360 in return.

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post Oct 1 2008, 12:59 AM
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i feel like microsoft has like finally launched an actual console unlike the other garbage theyre selling now and if this brakes down im assuming that microsoft hasnt launched a real console yet until ms releases a console that wont break i will consider it an actual console cuz other stuff was garbage the amount of rrods is still unexceptable on ms's part
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post Oct 1 2008, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(gsharpshooter @ Oct 1 2008, 01:35 AM) *

i feel like microsoft has like finally launched an actual console unlike the other garbage theyre selling now and if this brakes down im assuming that microsoft hasnt launched a real console yet until ms releases a console that wont break i will consider it an actual console cuz other stuff was garbage the amount of rrods is still unexceptable on ms's part


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post Oct 1 2008, 03:25 AM
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Maybe a basic English class would be better then a console.
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post Oct 1 2008, 04:27 AM
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So 5 total entries with people claming to have jaspers. Wait, make that 6 because I think Im going to go post mine up saying it's a jasper rolleyes.gif

I LOL'ed at this comment:
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This thing is very, very quiet. I'm going to assume this is the jasper/casper board due to the manufacture date but i will edit when i find out otherwise


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post Oct 1 2008, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(trentdadi @ Oct 1 2008, 04:01 AM) *

Maybe a basic English class would be better then a console.

laugh.gif The fact that you need one worse than him makes it even funnier.

But yeah back to topic, announcing this without ANY proof is definitely a silly move.

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post Oct 2 2008, 02:05 AM
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i dont think its so hard to believe.

2 reasons.

ATI is down to 55nm and IBM is down to 22 (or will be very soon) right?

and.

The cooling system looks the same (y RnD for a heatsink when the current one will be plenty sufficient for the new cooler 65 nm chips)

this is why i feel jasper is out there.
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