Funny guys. FPS is an FPS is an FPS. Giana sisters was better than super mario brothers etc. HL1 was based on the Quake2 engine, and monolith did Blood1/2 on the Duke3d engine, and CoD2 is based on the Quake3 engine. Dont fool yourself with old-school new-school no-school nonsense. They're all former pupils of the same school, the ID school of FPS!
FEAR has even been said to be an "extended HL1 marine fight". You really have to draw a fine line if you want to say HL2 and FEAR have nothing in common.
I'd say Quake4 (I'm now right after the last hope part with the tall towers) is more Doom1/2 than Doom3 ever was. Shooting 40 rockets at a dozen monsters on screen etc. Even the menu music reminds me of Doom1.
I played the co-op in doom3 xbox through with a friend and liked it more than the single player on the PC or the xbox. Quake4 would make a somewhat more entertaining co-op game but sadly doesnt have that option.
If I remember correctly Quake1 and 2 had co-op for the single player campaign, so Raven killed the grand tradition.
Luckily the pupils have become the masters and Bungie will give us fabulous co-op in the future im sure.This post has been edited by Joergen: Oct 30 2005, 02:21 AM