The "Xbox360 Disc Format" thread Options

[Ballz2TheWallz]

some site stated all the "official specs" or something,3 cores at 3ghz,ati chip,512mb ram, ect then i saw the dreaded standard dvd and thought why even buy this pos when i can just upgrade my comp at ms can continue takeing the hard black one in the ass. but before i get upset what is the media it will be useing

[crazy8]

Wel i dont know for sure and im not sure if anyone else does as of now but if no one knows then i would just recomend watching MTV on the 12th at 930pm EST for the unvailing of the 360 or just keep checking back after the 12th to see what information sufaces.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000600035065/
claims made by gamespy saying no hd dvd,sad i fear ms will be the best ai and slightly better graphics but use is it without big storage?and sony big storage with less ai and slightly lesser graphics......god i just wanna stick to my pc

ms are morons, morrowind takes up a whole dvd-9 disk, oblivion will probably take 3

This post has been edited by Ballz2TheWallz: May 9 2005, 12:26 AM

[mikeandbandit]

hd-dvd isnt neccesary for Hd content or movies

[Ballz2TheWallz]

hd-dvd isnt neccesary for Hd content or movies

didnt say that,but game of the year morrowind takes a whole dvd9 on this generation,with high def textures oblivion will take alot more space

[mikeandbandit]

no it doesnt, i have morrowind on my PC with high rez textures and the add-on packs, plus a butt load of extra mods, its about 2GB. the xbox uses a unified system, environment simialr to windows environment.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

no it doesnt, i have morrowind on my PC with high rez textures and the add-on packs, plus a butt load of extra mods, its about 2GB. the xbox uses a unified system, environment simialr to windows environment.

do you have tribunal and bloodmoon expansions all there to?cause i said game of the year

[mbratton]

morrowind could have been smaller. 99% of the games on the market could be smaller.
look at gamecube - the average size of a game is only 700-1000mb... developers just have to use techniques like shaders, compression, and in-game-engine-cinematics to keep sizes low.

dvd-9 will not be a problem.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

morrowind could have been smaller.  99% of the games on the market could be smaller.
look at gamecube - the average size of a game is only 700-1000mb...  developers just have to use techniques like shaders, compression, and in-game-engine-cinematics to keep sizes low.

dvd-9 will not be a problem.

pretty sure all cut scenes where rendered real time with the morrowind engine

[mbratton]

pretty sure all cut scenes where rendered real time with the morrowind engine

doesn't matter... there's more than just that. if devs cared about it, they could have cut it to sub 2GB easy... but why spend time and money making a game smaller when you can fill the whole disk? pc game devs have to worry about the same things because hdds are only so big, which is why pc ports are consistently smaller in size than their console counterparts.

again, dvd-9 will not hinder developers at all - if all else fails we'll have multi disk games like gcn,dc,and psx.

[mikeandbandit]

cut scenes in next gen consoles will be rendered in the game engine as it will basically be pointless to place cgi scenes that looke almost exactly like their ingame counter parts, in addition the x2 has enough power for high decompression, (which most likely wont even be needed) remember the reason games are getting bigger and more indepth has nothing to do with space and everything to do with time management tools. right now the bottleneck for developers is NOT console power or media size, its development costs and time (also a development cost) the amount of content neccessary to cram a full dvd alone would require at least 4 years of developement, and by cram, i mean using every compression technique known to man, lol and using the current XNa studio kits it would take a minimum of 4 years to fill the dvd.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

pretty sure oblivion has been in devolpment for about 4 years now i dunno,i can drive down to there studios and ask how big they think it will be

[mikeandbandit]

yep and it will likely be around 3-4GB, remember GTA SA fit on a DVD and its an entire state several times larger than vice city

[Ballz2TheWallz]

yep and it will likely be around 3-4GB,  remember GTA SA fit on a DVD and its an entire state several times larger than vice city

also has shitty looking textures

[heinrich]

some site stated all the "official specs" or something,3 cores at 3ghz,ati chip,512mb ram, ect then i saw the dreaded standard dvd and thought why even buy this pos when i can just upgrade my comp at ms can continue takeing the hard black one in the ass. but before i get upset what is the media it will be useing

Can you buy an hd-dvd rom drive right now? Is the spec even final? The console comes out in 6 months... They will have to have 3-4 million units available worldwide for the christmas season. How exactly do you propose they accomplish that?