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> Do You Think Ms Will Ever Do Well In Japan?
Do you think MS will ever do well in Japan?
Do you think MS will ever do well in Japan?
Yeah they just need better marketing [ 135 ] ** [6.47%]
Yeah they just need Square/other Japanese developers [ 666 ] ** [31.94%]
Maybe, if the one of the other consoles flop [ 161 ] ** [7.72%]
Probably not but MS needs to keep trying [ 419 ] ** [20.10%]
They should just forget Japan; Screw 'em if they don't know a good thing... [ 704 ] ** [33.76%]
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Collymilad
post Nov 24 2007, 12:02 PM
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Screw them if they don't know a good thing.

If a market would rather play Train Simulator 17 or Dragonball Z Budukoi Tenshuoko XXXIXIX than Mass Effect or Gears of War they are a lost cause.
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post Nov 26 2007, 08:41 PM
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why do we even care if they cant see what a quality console is then it their loss we can keep enjoying the 360 greatness
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post Nov 27 2007, 05:11 PM
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I hope we never go big in Japan. Microsoft is %100 American Based. That' the way I like it. I dont wanna give them all our shit. I like Japan, but let them keep Sony, and we'll keep Microsoft.
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post Nov 27 2007, 08:38 PM
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Most Japanese gamers and companies are too loyal to make M$ a big brand. There's a rather large anti-M$ sentiment among Americans, so I'm pretty sure that other markets have large anti-M$ groupies, too.

I doubt they'll become extremely mainstream any time soon, but I don't think they should stop trying to get into the Japanese market. Japan regularly produces ingenuity and M$ has a lot of good things going right now, so if they could sway Japanese gamers and companies to support them, we would probably see some really cool stuff come out.
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:18 PM
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Many Japanese are boy-cotting the 360 because it's an American console, so far they've reined over the console market. Now that Xbox 360 is taking a huge share, they don't like it.

But if Microsoft was serious about the Jap market, they could simply pay Square Enix to make a Final Fantasy or a sequel to Chrono Cross that is 360 exclusive. The Japs would go crazy and eat up the Xbox. We all know they love their JRPGs. It's like crack to them.
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post Nov 30 2007, 06:05 AM
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i voted for ... "Yeah they just need Square/other Japanese developers"

cause if that dont work i dont think anything will.
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(Collymilad @ Nov 24 2007, 12:38 PM) *

Screw them if they don't know a good thing.

If a market would rather play Train Simulator 17 or Dragonball Z Budukoi Tenshuoko XXXIXIX than Mass Effect or Gears of War they are a lost cause.

If you think "they don't know a good thing" because they don't prefer simple western shooters over everything amazing they already have, I TRULY feel sorry for you.

I think the fact that a lot of Americans think this way is why most of the world sees us as simple, biggoted idiots. And they're completely right.

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post Dec 3 2007, 10:04 PM
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Maybe if they team up with Nintendo to offer Wii60 they will have better luck.

I hardly see any japanese 360 news on the X-S main page...do they even have an headquarters there like here in the UK?

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post Dec 4 2007, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Hopeful @ Dec 2 2007, 09:22 PM) *

If you think "they don't know a good thing" because they don't prefer simple western shooters over everything amazing they already have, I TRULY feel sorry for you.

I think the fact that a lot of Americans think this way is why most of the world sees us as simple, biggoted idiots. And they're completely right.

I totally agree with Hopeful!
I think most of the people saying forget japan..etc.etc are just little kids with no actual knowledge of video games. Where do they think most of the games we play come from (ex: Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry,Ace Combat, Tekken, Metal Gear,Castlevania,etc.. SHALL I GO ON?) They are the ones with the MOST game experience and they know how to make great games (RESIDENT EVIL). Now picture if none of these games ever came out. I know more than 3/4 of you guys have enjoyed one of the above mentioned and there's loads more but just don't have he time to post the all.
Did you guys forget who started this game console craze in the US? If you haven't played NES, MASTER SYSTEM, GENESIS when they were the console(s) to get , Then you really have no idea. Most of you guys really have no idea what you are rambling about.

CAPCOM , SQUARE ENIX, KONAMI, SEGA, KOEI, etc... Too many to type in, but these companies alone, more thn 80% of people here, have purchased a game from them. Stop the hypocrisy!

Those of you with ill feeling over japan's non-partcipating in 360 are wrong. I played with many japanese people on LIVE (LOST PLANET - Another jap made game) and if M$ would actually cater to their likings then maybe it will take off in japan. They dont really care for a shooter's market as we blood thirsty americans are used to. Ever other game in our collection consists of 1st person/3rd person shooters and a few platformers/sports games. Look ta us as well, buy MADE IN THE USA!! Support our country! Its that they are just a bit more loyal to their homeland than we are. They have the discipline/smarts that we (i painfully admit) lack! I feel sad for those who say M$ rules gaming. LMFAO!!!!!!
TAKE THE BLUE PILL AND WAKE UP FROM YOUR DELUSIONAL STATE OF MIND!!

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post Dec 4 2007, 08:07 PM
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first off, i don't know about you guys, but i'm sick and tired of having to spend a lot of $ to get an import game, example would be super nintendo games back in the day, if you wanted a game like say dragonball z you had to get the import and those were expensive. there were always games that were exclusive to japan that you had to somehow modify your game console to play them on top of having to pay the extra cash. i think if microsoft's marketing campaign steps up and japan/any other country still doesn't respond, then we should have exclusive games here that they don't have so they can suffer like we have for many years.
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post Dec 5 2007, 07:07 AM
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Look, I've been living in Japan for a while now and I've talked to alot of Japanese gamers about this. Never once have I heard them say "it's not popular because it's American." Contrary to popular belief, they love alot of American stuff over here. My wife is Japanese and we have all 3 consoles here at home and I asked her which she liked the best. Her reply was the Playstation because of Ratchet and Clank and Mainichi Ishoo (weird news program with cats). From what I've seen, the Japanese are attracted to cute, lovable characters (like Ratchet, Mario, the Final Fantasy characters, etc) and the 360 just doesn't really have that. Sure, there are a few games that Japanese people are interested in (my bro-in-law loves Fight Night), but when an overwhelming majority of the games are FPS and games fueled by testosterone, they start looking at other offerings.

Microsoft got off to a bad start in Japan and it's too late to recover now that the PS3 is out. If MS wants to make another system, they better start encouraging developers to make a wider variety of games and they better find a cute, lovable mascot or it just won't sell in Japan.
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post Dec 7 2007, 12:23 PM
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I believe, the only chance they have is that Sony continues to make mistakes with their PS3 (like dropping ps2 support).
Otherwise, they should just drop Japan and put the effort into Europe and the USA.


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post Dec 10 2007, 10:43 PM
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The only way is to forget marketing in Japan temporarily. Cut them off completely for a year. Let the weak PS3 run rapid over there. Once their citizens realize that a US based company no longer has an interest in selling our product to them. they'll quickly want to know why. Then that's when the demand will flourish. Them Japs will want it more than a plaid skirt wearing school girl & a cup of saki.

I say we keep all of our efforts Americanized. How much money does M$ need? How many Fords, GM's and Chryslers do they sell in Asia? I'm very sure it's not that many. Is that also due to lack of marketing? Most likely not. When you don't want something, there's really no effective way to persuade them into it.

You have to make them want it. To do this, keep it out of their contries reach. Continue to develope titles we Americans love. Football, Basketball, auto racing and shot gun blasting shooters. we should not have to cater
to their desires. I mean who if anyone even rented Blue Dragon? Now there's even more talks of developing
games for these easterners. They have their play station, let Sony feed them those lame RPG's with subtitles and giberish for dialogue they love so much.

Let the rest of the free world in on the excitement of a 360 then when they finally do start to export them back to Asia, I say paint the console Red White & blue with a bold inscription of Made in the USA on the face.
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post Dec 12 2007, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(AlexNapo @ Nov 2 2007, 12:22 PM) *

If you happen to look in US car factory (either GM or Ford) you'll see a lot of Japanese car as well.

That's total BS. Have you ever worked for a american car company? I did some work for Ford once, and drove into the plant in a GM car and they flipped out. An associate of mine arrived in a Toyota; they told him to drive something else to the plant or we would lose the account. Americans can be just as proud as the kamikaze japs.

Don't just assume things based on what you see on the road. If you work for that company, you have to drive their cars.
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