The Internet, Xs, And Suicide, A Tragic True Story Options

[HSDEMONZ]

[HSDEMONZ]

[TheMuffinMan]

HS, wanted to thank you pubically for letting me post this in XBC forums.

[SKoT]

[Master-Chief]

I read the Quran.

Or as some people like to call it, "Koran".

Don't call me a terrorist!

[HSDEMONZ]

[Master-Chief]

[HSDEMONZ]

Not yet. Local papers don't post most Suicide stories.. as to not glorify it. The only time I se them posted locally now.. if is something new or extreme occured. Sad.

[M3_DeL]

I believe Ghandi taught out of both the quran and the Bible side by side.....from a pure Non-religious point af view both teach excelent morals to follow whether believer or not.

[Master-Chief]

[DuDeR MaN]

this is a sad story I know all too well. My best friend growing up had problems and his parents divorced at a young age. Later in his life he lost his uncle and favorate cousin to suicide. Not to mention he was born with torrets (spelling?) and in his early school years, children were cruel about it. He had about 3 attempts to commit suicide before I even knew he had a problem. The first time he told me he wasn't "brave" enough to go through with the razor on the wrists. The second time was due to poor worksman ship on a homemade noose, though he roughed his neck up pretty bad. THe third time he went what some may call the easy way and took two entire bottles of pills. Luckily his mom found him and had his stomach pumped in time. Mind you this was all before the age of 15 like our topic death.

Now here's where I come in, It was awhile back and most of it is a blur to me now but I will explain all that I remember. We were about 14-15 I believe when he started the whole "goth", now this may not sound strange to you now but this all happened when no one knew what a goth was and grunge rock was all the rage. Now me being a friend I had no problem making jokes here and there about it (note at the time I had no idea about his problems or past attempts). Anyway one day we were out riding our bikes and we ended up and a local walmart. We went inside to get a cheap lunch. We sat down and I noticed he was very quiet. I don't remember if I asked what was wrong or if he just told me but the next thing I knew he was pouring out all this information to me about his life that I had no idea about. He then told me he was thinking about doing it again. I of course didn't want this to happen so I tried to reassure him that his life was worth living. at the end he told me I was the only one that would listen to him so I felt we were back on track. No more than a week later he called me over his house after he had a big fight with his father who beat him up pretty bad. I seggested we call someone about it but he was too scared and had his own idea. He said he needs to go get something from his room and tells me to wait there. After about 3 minutes I go to see what he's doing. Now this part is making me feel a bit sick even remembering it but... I found if with a gun to his head and ready to shoot. I tried my hardest to stop him from pulling the trigger, though I was 15 and had no idea what really to do, the most I knew how to talk soft to someone was from watching full house. I can't even remember half of what I said in that room. But I do remember after about ten minutes, which seemed to be a lifetime, he lowered the gun and I slowly walked over to him, at this point we were both tearing up in the eyes though not crying. I put my hand on his back to ease him and slowly took the gun away. It was the scariest moment in my entire life.

Anyway, I obviously reported what happened to my parents who told his parents and the police and they also put me in theropy to prevent any problems I may of had. Anyway, in the end, he's still alive today with a good job. He spent the rest of his school years as a goth but after a year or so most accepted it and thought of him as a rebel which gave him a good amount of popularity points. Now it wasn't all happy endings, his grandmother died and both grandfathers in that time period so he had 2 more attempts that I am aware of (somebody up there loves this guy). He even had a suicide pact with a girlfriend at age 16, luckily that never went through. Today he is out of the goth thing and into selling used cars. He gets a good amount of money too I might add. I still think he's hurt inside and I don't see him much anymore but I think he'll be ok.

thats the story I had to live through in my lifetime. When people who say it's their choice to commit suicide, they are forgeting that suicide is not only a cowardly act but a selfish one. "selfsh? but it's their choice" yes but lets think if a husband and father commits suicide, who provides for the family (forgetting all insurance money because they don't give as much as his living income would be, most of the time). Who pays for the funeral, the counciling to family members. who pays? not the person who commits suicide. Suicide is more than just finacial selfishness, but emotional. They fell they'll just end it all to solve their problems but in doing so they create a shit load of problems on their friends and family. Those pointing the blame of the death on others or themselves instead of the one who inflicted their own death.

In my personal opinion, suicide is worse than murder, both are horrible but suicide can destroy a family as where a murder will hurt the family. I beg anyone here who has problems to please seek help, suicide is not cool. Hearing current bands like marilyn manson or slipknot talking about hurting themselves or getting rid of all the pain are unknowingly giving ideas to our youth when they have to desire to commit suicide themselves.. those words are meaning less to them, the money is real to them.

Anyway I'm ranting now, I usually do when the topic is suicide. So I better stop it before I take up the whole page with this stuff.


P.S.- I am a mod on the Review Forum and Other systems Forum and yet I spend only about 3-4 ten minute periods on this site per day, with the total online time being an average of an hour to and hour and a half. I use to be on ALOT about 6 years ago, I'm talking all day and all night. Try to get yourselves out of it like I did.

[frozen lake]

[Spency234]

HSD, I think it is good that you are shedding some light on this issue, and it's good to hear his mom is finally getting the help she needs. It's just sad that it's too late for her son, nothing is going to bring him back.

My condolences to his mother, and any friends that he may not have known he had.

I spend about 4-5 hours a day on here, only because I would rather be on here reading then working.

I would never substitute a site like this for a real life/friends though, you only live once, and in front of a computer is a sad way to spend it.

Once again cheers to you bringing this difficult topic up, hopefully you can make a difference in somebody's life.

[DuDeR MaN]

[xboxSlayer]

This is a sensitive topic. I'll just add my own story. My family was very poor and suffered from alcoholism. When I was a teenager I was not very popular and I also had bad acne. I always thought about suicide. I made 2 very serious attempts that I survived. I won't go to much into it. As I grew up I I had lots of ups and downs. I battled my problems with drugs. I had a girlfriend that was very messed up and also suffered from alcoholism. I thought that that was the best I was going to get. What helped me get though life was my love of Music and Video games. When I started to get down I would though on my favorite album and play a fun RPG. Today I'm married to a beautiful woman and have 2 wonderful boys that I love more that anything. I've been clean and sober for 3 years. Sometimes I think that if I had killed myself 10 years ago my kids never would have been born. Having a family brings me tons of rewards. To me, everything I went though in life was worth it - all the good and the bad. I survived and now I'm happy. I believe that all it took to get over my suicidal thoughts was to grow up. Once I hit my 20's the thoughts started to go away and my ambitions and dreams started to take over. Today I have nice home and a good job.

Today still have to fight my drug addition. I still think about it alot. What get's me though is still Music and Video games. I visit XS everyday and probably spend too much time online. But for me and my wife, it's better than drugs. At least I have good clean hobby. Downloading and Modding my xbox is enjoyable and keeps me out of trouble and gives a fun challenge.

I hope that if anyone thinks about suicide gets help. Talk to someone. A real person, not online. When I was a teen I talked to my family doctor who offered advice. Call one of those help lines. Anything. Life offers too many rewards just to throw away.