Which Next-gen Disc Will Win? Options

[greenday54261]

Meh. As far as I'm concerned they'll both fail. I hate these goddamn format wars.

[blind42]

I feel Hd-DVD is all we need for now , in the future though blue ray costs will lower just like hd-dvd has and will probally win possibly when the sony 4 and xbox 3 come out so in say 3-5 years....

[Jagosix]

Hello . Now I really don't care, but i prefer to have HD-DVD over Blu-ray any day. As far as storage is concerned.... Again look @ nintendo (I cannot stress this enough). They can fit a beautiful game on a small 1.3GB disc. So why would all that space (20-50gb) be needed for a game? 9Gb is really plenty of space. It's all about the programmers & how they code the game. So .. the only reason i would use the hd-dvd or blu-ray is mainly for storage (movies not games). Cause its not really needed for games, yet.

[Bender_Unit_1]

I back Blu-Ray 100%.
It's far superior in the way it was engineered through the idea of smaller wavelengths, yet it holds more data, will be smaller with it's smaller protective layer, and the way it runs is betterthan HDDVD.

And as for all you who mock SONY, who invented CDs along with Philips? And where was this technology later applied - maybe DVDs? And who was the driving force behind single-sided dual-layer DVDs?

As for the movie industry, which is the point behind the next generation discs, Sony is a charter member within the Moving Pictures Experts Group, who are the people who set the standards! And more space always means better. Especially past the movie, if you want to keep great quality on the DVD extras. The space adds up when you have high resolutions, with 7.1 surround sound.

Ever since I discovered the idea of Blue-Ray, I've backed it. Although HD-DVD is a novelty, it's going nowhere. It's a real shame in a ways, due to all the effort that went into designing and engineering such a high quality product.

-Bender

[bjwoodruff]

who backed betamax against vhs, sony did, so what does that say about blu ray?

bj

[O_oTheGameo_O]

I say Blue-Ray it seems to have a future

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SONY IS LIKE 997645745799569348693695865986 times richer than M$??

sony is from the gov JAP and there rich as hell and it almost can't go bankrupt on the other hand M$ can go any day bankrupt.

sorry for my english it's not my first lang

[Disco_Gee]

who backed betamax against vhs, sony did, so what does that say about blu ray?

bj

Absolutely nothing, but thanks for trying (that was disappointing, cause Betamax was a better system than VHS. Anyway...)

Blu-Ray will win hands down. It's larger capacity (as much as 200gb with 8 layers) will persuade people like me who do a lot of data intensive work like video editing and are looking for higher capacity storage solutions to back up work on (especially with HD editing just around the corner). Considering I'm working on a 90gb SD project right now, I can't see HDDVD as ever being a practical solution for large data storage. Plus Blu-ray has got the backing of the majority of the film industry, and most of the porn industry. MS may be big with lots of money, but they have no sway when it comes to the film industry - unlike Sony and the other brands on board the blu-ray bandwagon.

Holographic storage has already been developed but nobody is paying much attention to it, which is a real shame. A disc slightly larger in diameter than a DVD that can hold as much a 3.9 terrabytes? I'd be into that for sure.

[Tobb555]

I saw both at CES they both seemed promising but I think blueray will win

ya if i was going by what i say at CES i would say Blu-Ray is going to win, but i hoep HD-DVD does.

[Odb718]

Which ever format has the cheaper porn will win.

[spideronfire]

i see blu-ray as only useful for data storage/backup because it is still using mpeg2 video for movies.

hd-dvds dont need a lot of extra space because they can use h.264 (mpeg4 AVC) encoded video for movies which is a far superior format at high bitrates.

[asteron]

It is pointless to argue points based off of technical merits. Time and time again superior technology fails against superior marketing. I am a fan of HD DVD, its cheap easy and gets you tons of bang for the buck and yet the 360 shipped without it. You may argue about the HDDVD add-on but do you honestly think people would buy an external drive for the xbox? Have you heard of Nintendo's 64DD or Sega's 32x?

HD DVD was dead before it started. It is unfortunate as I think it is the format that makes the most sense.

[Gamer_guy]

In my eyes, the HD-DVD will be more popular, and have more widespread use. Average people and people who aren't familiar with everything regarding computers will look at it and say "Hey, its a new kind of DVD." as opposed to the "Blu-Ray? What's that?"

I see Blu-Ray being used for heavy storage for high-storage needing users, such as video editing, and business making backups of their data. Who needs 50+GB of storage? Not me. I have an 80 GB hard drive in my primary computer, and thats enough for me, as many users.

The major thing I have against Blu-Ray is its materials. Its made of PAPER PEOPLE. All one would need to do is cut it with scissors to destroy the data. While this does make production costs significantly lower, it does make the damage factor a lot higher.

Overall, HD-DVD just has too many more factors, even if they are small ones, over blu-ray for it to not come out on top.

[speed_racer88]

Why wouldn't the movie, music, and software companies back a disc that won't have a consumer recordable version? That would really make it harder to pirate if you couldn't buy a Blue-ray or hd-dvd recorder. I also think that creating a disc that can't work in a PC would help fight piracy. That could be as simple as making disc a few inches bigger.

i think that making a disk that wouldn't work in a computer is one of the dumbest things a company could do. lot's of people watch movies on their computer, especially with laptops.
I think that with the ps3 coming with bluray drive it will be more popular, like someone has already said people will buy a ps3 as a bluray player just like people bought the ps2 for a dvd player. I also think that the xbox will end up going with the bluray drive add on.

This post has been edited by speed_racer88: Jan 15 2006, 02:08 AM

[thechosenone]

I don't see why this is such a huge issue. On either side the technology just doesn't exist for the consumer. Are there HD-DVD burners? No. Are there Blu-Ray burners? No. How many years do you all think it will take for either of the burners to hit the consumer market at a price that is reasonable. A long ass time. I personally favor HD-DVD because as great as new features and technology and all this hooplah are, consumers still care about price. Would you rather buy this $30 HD-DVD movie or this $50 Blu-Ray movie? That's how movie studios will view this dilemma.

You want to know what will be the dominant format in 2 years? Standard DVD. That's why MS made the right choice in including a standard DVD drive. They will be able to manage manufacturing costs, and use a larger format when necessary. Sony on the other hand is stuck with the manufacturing costs of a proprietary format that does not yet exist. Hell just look at the price of a blank DVD-9 disc. How many of you have a shelf with 100 blank DVD-9's on it? Now imagine the costs of just purchasing a 5 pack of blank 27gb or 54gb Blu-Ray discs. To place in your dual layer Blu-Ray burner might I add. Can you say 5 years from now?

[Xijar]

Speaking purely from anti-Sony bias and considering no actual logic in my vote, I am 100% positive that HD-DVD will be the better format.