Are V1.5 Even Real?, NO!!! Read inside... Options

[jokk]

[Dorksk8tr3]

I instaled a Xenium and when i booted up there was just the M$ dash. Nothing changed.

I got upset cause i had a bitch with the D0.

So i got on line to see if i could find an alternate D0 found one and found the references to the 1.4 and 1.5 (this was a couple months ago when Xenium first released) I had just bought my xbox and thought that it may be a "1.5"
so i read up. Saw the 2 wire bit. NO answer as to where to run the power for the 3.3V though so i searched again. Someone said about using the R7D5 or something(don't recall the name) the small capaciter so i checked it and saw the Pretty LED that i didn't know was there.

JOY JOY JOY...... The chip had power. So I soldered it. Tried to run the ground to a screw hole and it wouldn't take so i said fuck it. Put the alternate D0 on and closed her up.

Wham...Presto It's aliveeeeee. lol (sorry)

Anyway the chip worked everything was good. Still works i run it everyday no problems.....

Except I have no ground which i guess is alright unless i have a power surge or maybe it'll cause my mobo to over heat (reaches 135.F highest so far)

So why doesn't mine work with no wires and works with the one wire?

I used the LPC pins that came with the Xenium (I removed the #4 pin also)

Feel free to pick this apart, critisize, ask questions, whatever.

Just adding my expierience to help the myth get busted.

[Dorksk8tr3]

Guess i may have posted twice or none Sorry if i did

Nothing changes after i post and usually it does.!?

[Xeero]

[EmperorPsiblade]

I was wondering how long it would take for somebody to say that.... Thank you Xeero....

[dzv]

Dorksk8tr3 and EmperorPsiblade: No offense to either of you, but your experiences provide no concrete evidence of a v1.5 I've heard from people with similar experiences time and time again. In the end, it's usually a case of improper soldering on the LPC bus. The 3.3v (pin 9) and GND (pin 2) are more diffictult to solder because they require heat to be applied for a longer period, or a higher wattage iron. A lot of inexperienced solderers don't realise that they are actually not getting a proper connection on one or both of those pins.

If either of you had used a multimeter directly on the LPC bus (before installing a pin header), then you could confidently say whether you have a v1.4 or v1.5 Xbox.

Personally, I'm leaning towards the theory the the v1.5 Xboxes were a small batch with manufacturing defects. I've still never seen one.

[EDIT] EmperorPsiblade: you mentioned that you used a multimeter, but did you measure off your pin header, or directly from the LPC bus before installing the header?

This post has been edited by dzv: Apr 3 2004, 02:03 AM

[EmperorPsiblade]

directly off the lpc bus

[Xeero]

[Josh Adams]

I too agree with dzv about the V1.5 being a bad batch, although I do seem to think that Xecuter have cashed in on this which may be what EvoX is referring to.

If I recall in the early days of the Xenium the thing Xecuter pushed about the Xenium the most was the V1.5 compatibility concerns.

just my 2 cents worth

[fujitech]

My theory:
1.5 versions do not exist!

Reasoning:
1) In order to test/debug m$ does this without any manual work!
2) Basic electronics: in order to join two different circuits u need to have a common "ground"!
4) How is it that "these 1.5" xbox appear sporadically all over the world?
5) Latest xbox i've moded was 1.4 (Grand Slam Pack, with man. date 11/11/2003)

BUT

1) During the disconnection of the two circuits, while one of them is still ON,
can produce a surge. This surge its possible to burn some components, or even an
LPC line
2) Dont think that m$ in an effort to cut down expenses would invest for new debug/test equipment! When something works, why change it?

[Troed]

[fujitech]

Wow
name calling!
nice!

Why u dont comment on the rest points?

Thank you

[Troed]

[cap269]

Ok, How about this situation...

The factory that produces the 1.4 motherboards, in making one of the (or a few) batches of motherboards last summer, had a production error, resulting in the missing points on the LPC bus. (Are there any other differences? I ask, because I've never seen a v1.5 myself to know if there are any other differences...)

MS either found out about the error and pulled the boards from their stock, or simply used them up and subsequent batches of 1.4 boards didn't have that production error.

No matter how the above scenario plays out, it would explain that what we call v1.5 boards aren't a true revision, just flawed 1.4 boards, which explains why there are so few of them in existence, and why new boxes (even the crystal LEs) are still using v1.4s.

JMHO

This post has been edited by cap269: Apr 3 2004, 07:52 AM

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