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shanafan
post Jan 11 2003, 06:01 AM
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How to play on Xbox Live with a modded Xbox
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IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY BACKUPS (DVD/HD) ON XBOX LIVE. IN DOING SO, YOUR XBOX WILL BE BANNED FROM XBOX LIVE BECAUSE THE MODCHIP WAS ON. EVEN ORIGINALS WILL RESULT IN A BAN IF THE MODCHIP IS ON AND YOU ARE ON LIVE.

Table of Contents
- Playing on Live 2.0 with a modded Xbox (Other Q/A's about Live 2.0)
- How to play on Xbox Live with a non-flashable modded Xbox
- How to play on Xbox Live with a flashable modded Xbox (Matrix modchip help inside)
- How to play on Live with an upgraded HD and/or running an EvolutionX CD
- How to get back onto Live if you were banned
- How to get your account back if you lost it
- Can Xbox Live be hacked to allow backups to work?
- What if I access Live with my network cable unplugged?
- Final Notes
- Rumors

Ok, so you got your Xbox modded and want to play the top games on Xbox Live. But, you heard that you can't play a modded Xbox on Live. What should you do? Well, here is your answer.

Playing on Live 2.0 with a modded Xbox
I made this the first question because it's very important. You can still play on Xbox Live 2.0 with your modchip off, but regarding playing your modded Xbox, do not access the MS dash with the modchip on. As, Live will connect automatically and with your modchip on, you will be banned. I recommend taking out the link to the MS dash in EvolutionX too.

(Other Q/A's about Live 2.0)

How to play on Xbox Live with a non-flashable modded Xbox
The most important thing to know is that your MS dash must be named xboxdash.xbe. When you first run Xbox Live, it will update that file with the new MS dash with the Live tab. So, you may ask "What about EvolutionX?" Well, sorry guys, but you will have to run EvolutionX off a CD.

So now that you know that your MS dash has to be xboxdash.xbe, you will have to install a switch on your modchip. The switch will disable it, or enable the modchip.

The most important thing when playing on Live with a modded Xbox is that you must always have the modchip off when playing on Live. Turn your modchip off, and then power on Xbox. It is always best to have the modchip off, even when you are installing Live for the first time.

Now, if you want to play backups, turn your modchip on and power on Xbox. You can boot your EvolutionX CD and load your backups off the HD, or you can boot your backup CDs. However, you must make sure you DO NOT access any Live-oriented tabs within the game. DO NOT select "Download Content", "Play Live", etc. tabs in a game. When doing so, your Xbox will connect to Live, and MS will detect a modified BIOS, and you will then soon be banned.

How to play on Xbox Live with a flashable modded Xbox
So, you have the best field of modchips out there, so you have better options. The first thing you want to do is flash your modchip with a BIOS that boots a file another than xboxdash.xbe. For example, flash with a BIOS that will load evoxdash.xbe first. You can store your EvolutionX dash on your HD, and have it be evoxdash.xbe. But, be sure you keep your MS dash as xboxdash.xbe. That file will be updated when you first install Live and having the MS dash as xboxdash.xbe will make it a good update.

For those of you with the Matrix, you will set your Matrix in mode 3. How mode 3 works is, your flashed BIOS will load when the XBox is powered on. This means the modchip is on, and you can check that by looking inside the Xbox at the modchip and it will have a green LED. But, for those who want a nice, put together Xbox, I recommend getting a BIOS that is a colormod. So, when your Xbox boots, your Xbox logo will be blue for example meaning the modchip is on.

MATRIX MODCHIP USERS - DO NOT USE THE NEW X2 4977 BIOS. WHEN YOU HIT THE EJECT BUTTON TO BOOT WITH THE MODCHIP OFF, THE SYSTEM WILL NOT REBOOT. USE THE X2 4976.02 BIOS INSTEAD

So, you are now at your EvolutionX dash or MS dash with the modchip on. You will then run a game (an original or a backup) or even a homebrewed program, and when the game is running, press the big eject button. Your Xbox will reboot and the original BIOS will load. The normal green Xbox logo will show and this means the modchip is off. Also, the modchip will now show the red LED.

As I said above, you must make sure you DO NOT access any Live-oriented tabs within the game when the modchip is on. DO NOT select "Download Content", "Play Live", etc. tabs in a game. When doing so, your Xbox will connect to Live, and MS will detect a modified BIOS, and you will then soon be banned.

How to play on Live with an upgraded HD and/or running an EvolutionX CD
Playing on Live is easy with an upgraded HD. It must always be locked. The original MS BIOS, when the modchip is off, demands a locked HD or else your Xbox won't boot. You may ask if a locked HD is ok to do with the modchip on. Yes, it's okay.

Relating to the xboxdash.xbe file, this must be in the root of C:

As a quick note, if you are in a situation where you must run the EvolutionX CD, you can keep all your EvolutionX files (skins folder, evox.ini, etc) in their usual places on the HD, as you just will need default.xbe (EvolutionX dash) on the CD.

How to get back onto Live if you were banned
So, you made a mistake. Your "little brother" selected a Live tab with the modchip on and now you are banned. Well, you can get back on Live. Xbox Live just bans your Xbox's HD key. Not your gamer account.

To get back onto Live, you MUST obtain an unbanned EEPROM. These are not posted at the usual places, you must get it from a friend who has a modded Xbox and doesn't plan to go on Xbox Live. To update your Xbox's EEPROM with a unbanned EEPROM, download Configmagic and use that program. The program is easy to use and it is all menu driven.

Here are some key notes for using Configmagic
- Your HD has to be unlocked for the update to occur, but relock it when it is done
- If you do get a PAL EEPROM for any reason, here is what you should do:

Go to "on-the-fly" edit command and change the region from "PAL, Region 4" to "NTSC, Region 1". That's it! Now you have a NTSC EEPROM. But, you will have to go to your MS dash and update the clock.

For more information on Configmagic, check out www.team-assembly.com
YOU CAN NOT DOWNLOAD IT FROM THERE

How to get your account back if you lost it
If you upgraded your Xbox HD by installing a new HD into your Xbox, you will lose your Xbox Live account. HOWEVER, it is easily to get it back. You have two options:

1) BEFORE you install your new HD, copy your Xbox Live account to a memory unit by using the memory manager in the MS dash. Then, install the new HD, format it for Xbox use. Finally, transfer account back to your Xbox using the memory unit.

2) If you already installed your new HD and didn't do the above option, you can either hook up your old HD and follow option 1, or log into Xbox Live and select "Account Recovery" option. Fill in required fields, and you will get your account back.

The reason your Xbox Live account does not carry over from a backup of E: is that your account is hard-coded into the FatX table of your Xbox HD.

Can Xbox Live be hacked to allow backups to work?
Don't count on it. MS owns and runs Xbox Live. To put things very short, if were figure out how to beat MS's protection against modchips on Live, MS will just change the system and stop that method from happening too. We can't beat MS on this level.

What if I access Live with my network cable unplugged?
After recent testing by myself, accessing Live with the modchip on and the network unplugged, WILL NOT result in a ban. Since the Xbox has no information to send to MS, MS won't know your modded Xbox tried to access Live with the modchip on.

Final Notes
These are just some quick tips again
- DO NOT select any Live-oriented tabs within a game or on the MS dash when then modchip is on.
- Your HD has to be locked to play on Xbox Live.
- You can use the MS dash all you want with the modchip on, just DO NOT select the Xbox Live tab.
- You can use an upgraded HD with Xbox Live. Live does not ban upgraded HD users.
- Some new Xboxes already have the Live selection on the MS dashboard. No worries, you can still install your modchip just fine.
- ONLY original games work on Xbox Live, backups do not.
- HD swapping with an unbanned Xbox does not work.
- Loading a backup, and then turning modchip off while the backup is running will not be safe for Live, as the modified BIOS has already been loaded.
- Once your EEPROM is banned, its banned. Even the backup of it.
- PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME FOR ANY PROGRAMS OR FILES.

Rumors
- There has been some instances of people accidently connecting to Live with the modchip on, and not being banned. Again, I must highly stress that I would take this as a grain of salt. Just be careful with accessing the Live tabs. In other words, don't!

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QUOTE (phantazma1 @ Mar 4 2003, 12:50 PM)
tell me if this is correct.

1) put an unbanned eeprom in the configMagicFINALdata directory
2) load up configMagic
3) unlock the drive
4) choose the "UPDATE EEPROM" option
5) lock drive
6) restart xbox

i still can't get on LIVE....

Did you tell the configmagic.ini where your new EEPROM is at?
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shanafan   Tutorial - How To Play On Live With A Modded Xbox   Jan 11 2003, 06:01 AM
kevandju   Excellent post, but I have a question that you kin...   Jan 11 2003, 06:26 AM
shanafan   Updated FAQ :D   Jan 11 2003, 06:35 AM
Fuzzy   i smell tutorials   Jan 11 2003, 04:49 PM
bluespot   It is also necessay to restore your C: drive back ...   Jan 12 2003, 08:42 AM
shanafan   If you get banned, you don't have to delete an...   Jan 12 2003, 08:46 AM
ranciddc   ok so you use configmagic to make the eeprom but n...   Jan 12 2003, 06:45 PM
shanafan   No, you can not make an EEPROM from Configmagic....   Jan 13 2003, 12:24 AM
Fuzzy   Well technically you can but you need to put in th...   Jan 13 2003, 12:43 AM
shanafan   Fuzzy, that is what I meant. You can't blindly...   Jan 13 2003, 12:54 AM
ranciddc   ahh ok i see yeah i never thought config magic wou...   Jan 13 2003, 12:57 AM
Happy79   shannafan, one question. I think I have read a few...   Jan 14 2003, 05:58 AM
shanafan   To be honest, I do not know.   Jan 14 2003, 06:12 AM
x-power   here a another tips if you not playing xbox live ...   Jan 15 2003, 01:57 AM
shanafan   X-Power (need to work on those writing skills budd...   Jan 15 2003, 08:57 AM
x-power   Thank shanafan, i was half sleepy back then.   Jan 15 2003, 11:49 AM
stark   I dont suppose you help me here shanafan. I have ...   Jan 15 2003, 08:32 PM
shanafan   You may have missed it in my FAQ.... Go to ...   Jan 16 2003, 12:10 AM
stark   ahhh nice one cheers. :D   Jan 16 2003, 09:33 AM
Chaldod248   So if i get the eeprom from a friends xbox, can he...   Jan 17 2003, 11:18 PM
shanafan   Your friend has to have a modded Xbox. Have him in...   Jan 17 2003, 11:33 PM
bearauto   Shan, if it is true that the matrix bios is loaded...   Jan 18 2003, 08:32 AM
shanafan   No, because if it did, we would have lot of unhapp...   Jan 18 2003, 09:55 AM
bearauto   Gotcha...thanks   Jan 18 2003, 06:12 PM
trikster   Newbie question: If I put my Matrix in mode 3, do...   Jan 19 2003, 09:39 AM
shanafan   When you put your Matrix in Mode 3 and press eject...   Jan 19 2003, 09:44 AM
bearauto   Correct, ejectfix does NOT change the bios from D6...   Jan 19 2003, 07:09 PM
Chaldod248   If i back up the EEPROM and keep it saved on my co...   Jan 20 2003, 05:28 AM
Marmite   You can't use the old banned eeprom, you nee...   Jan 20 2003, 06:03 AM
shanafan   MS bans your Xbox by your EEPROM. Once that EEPR...   Jan 20 2003, 06:04 AM
Marmite   What do you mean? [/quote] He wants to know if ...   Jan 20 2003, 06:13 AM
Chaldod248   thanks for the help   Jan 21 2003, 12:52 AM
akumabas   I have a question i have 2 HDD's one is my ori...   Jan 22 2003, 08:43 PM
shanafan   You did nothing wrong. You were still using the sa...   Jan 23 2003, 01:36 AM
akumabas   oooooohh! OK LOL thanks   Jan 23 2003, 05:20 AM
kerraig   If I have my Xbox switched off but my video mode i...   Jan 24 2003, 10:51 AM
shanafan   Good question. I am not sure, but I recommend se...   Jan 26 2003, 01:58 AM
atf487   Hey shanafan, you made a nice topic here. Anyway...   Jan 26 2003, 03:15 AM
shanafan   Sorry, I don't know   Jan 26 2003, 06:04 AM
Fuzzy   i dont think so   Jan 26 2003, 02:54 PM
eug2k   doesn't the x2 pro have an external adapter wi...   Jan 30 2003, 01:11 AM
shanafan   X2 has an external parallel programmer, but you ha...   Jan 30 2003, 03:31 AM
Wizz   I I lokk th hd, will I still be able to accses F: ...   Jan 30 2003, 10:08 AM
ChocoboLee   According to Xecuter's website (http://xecuter...   Jan 30 2003, 05:07 PM
shanafan   No, locking your HD does not prevent access to y...   Jan 30 2003, 09:16 PM
Mekapo   Shanafan thank you so much for this invaluable tut...   Jan 31 2003, 04:45 AM
shanafan   Thanks for the feedback Mekapo. About using two EE...   Jan 31 2003, 05:57 AM
Wizz   So there is no downsides to loocking the harddrive...   Jan 31 2003, 02:43 PM
Marmite   no   Jan 31 2003, 05:24 PM
Mekapo   did everything tonight and it worked like a charm ...   Feb 1 2003, 06:29 AM
shanafan   no problem, I am here to help :)   Feb 1 2003, 06:49 AM
ranciddc   here is a question for you..is it possible to run ...   Feb 5 2003, 01:09 PM
{ErO}   Hi all, I don't know if anyone has posted the ...   Feb 5 2003, 03:58 PM
rfortuna   Let me see if I understand correctly it is not pos...   Feb 5 2003, 08:56 PM
shanafan   Yes, check out the tutorials at XS main page   Feb 6 2003, 03:26 AM
rfortuna   Thnx shanafan another question: I use a Enigmah ...   Feb 7 2003, 10:12 AM
shanafan   The Matrix have dipswitches on it so you can disab...   Feb 8 2003, 03:43 AM
Bclay   ok a relative noob at this so heres the story got ...   Feb 9 2003, 11:29 PM
shanafan   I suggest using Configmagic or even your PC for ...   Feb 11 2003, 09:15 PM
Drunken1   I echo Mekapo's statements, and am pretty m...   Feb 12 2003, 06:28 PM
shanafan   Thanks for the feedback :) The Matrix is the be...   Feb 12 2003, 06:34 PM
Drunken1   Thanks shanafan. This proves why you are the Man...   Feb 12 2003, 06:48 PM
shanafan   Yeah, with the modchip off, you can use Live to it...   Feb 12 2003, 06:50 PM
johnrichardandrew   If I dont have broadband (therefore no XB live :a...   Feb 15 2003, 11:25 AM
007jamesbond   hehe thanks i got my answer on my n00by question ...   Feb 15 2003, 01:05 PM
shanafan   If you do not have broadband access to your Xbox,...   Feb 15 2003, 08:00 PM
shanafan   Glad you read here instead of asking this questi...   Feb 15 2003, 08:02 PM
terabeast   Hey, does anybody know if I need to delete any uns...   Feb 19 2003, 07:43 PM
shanafan   The ONLY way right now to be banned is using you...   Feb 19 2003, 08:24 PM
007jamesbond   ok a n00b question, why should you need a modchip ...   Feb 20 2003, 11:57 AM
shanafan   Honestly, don't know. Ask the modchip board   Feb 22 2003, 05:41 AM
ninjatech   Sorry, I am new with this... How long does it tak...   Feb 22 2003, 10:28 AM
viper11203   ok im sorry if this is a stupid question but i hav...   Feb 22 2003, 09:11 PM
jhan   Depends. Some says immediatly, some say takes da...   Feb 23 2003, 03:27 AM
jhan   No, you need a new EEPROM from an unbanned Xbox. ...   Feb 23 2003, 03:31 AM
Eyedea   I have a few questions regarding a Matrix chip and...   Feb 24 2003, 08:11 PM
darylzero   1. Yes the game not only has to be on DVD, it h...   Feb 24 2003, 08:36 PM
Eyedea   1. OK, just wondering. 2. I access my legit xbo...   Feb 24 2003, 08:39 PM
darylzero   1. OK, just wondering. 2. I access my legit xbox...   Feb 24 2003, 08:41 PM
Eyedea   Understood. So what exactly will locking my hard...   Feb 24 2003, 11:40 PM
darylzero   Understood. So what exactly will locking my hard...   Feb 25 2003, 12:48 AM
Eyedea   So by locking the hard drive I am fooling the Xbo...   Feb 25 2003, 04:38 PM
shanafan   Locked or unlocked, you will still have 100% acc...   Feb 25 2003, 05:56 PM
Eyedea   Thanks, I'll give that a try.   Feb 25 2003, 06:59 PM
avian   I replaced my original HD with a 100G HD, it is st...   Feb 26 2003, 07:55 PM
shanafan   Use Configmagic to lock the HD, it gives it a pa...   Feb 26 2003, 09:01 PM
avian   Use Configmagic to lock the HD, it gives it a pas...   Feb 27 2003, 12:30 PM
zork007   Im confused :uhh: I have a a Xecuter 2lite insta...   Mar 3 2003, 07:20 AM
phantazma1   tell me if this is correct. 1) put an unbanned ee...   Mar 4 2003, 04:50 PM
shanafan   Updated FAQ   Mar 4 2003, 05:46 PM
HeLiuM   you dont need evox to boot stuff from cd neways, b...   Mar 4 2003, 06:40 PM
phantazma1   yeah..... i did that.... but still doesn't w...   Mar 4 2003, 11:01 PM
shanafan   yeah..... i did that.... but still doesn't wo...   Mar 5 2003, 03:56 AM
phantazma1   thanks for the info man... even the xbox custom...   Mar 5 2003, 05:50 AM
shanafan   Well nothing is wrong with your Xbox. Let me ask ...   Mar 5 2003, 05:54 AM
phantazma1   yup. i got the latest version of evox, and i ftp ...   Mar 5 2003, 04:26 PM
darylzero   This may sound simplistic but have you tried switc...   Mar 5 2003, 06:49 PM
phantazma1   of course i had it on automatic!!! ...   Mar 5 2003, 09:14 PM
Xbox-Savage   I went to Live dash and i didnt get banned , i gue...   Mar 6 2003, 09:44 AM
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