Thanks, its funny how i think im right about something but dont listen to myself everytime. I originally got the right zip, then i got the readme file as well, so when i started reading the readme im like shit there must be another zip that has the source. So i get that, and im saying this doesnt make sense, the binary should be the compiled source. Ah well, its good for a laugh at myself, and another stupid thread for the forum. I think im up to like 3 now