The Very Best Media., I want the quietest and best quality. Options

[ncasebee]

Which are the very best quality of DVD-R media. I've heard Verbatim, and I've heard Taiyo Yuden. I've also been recommened Verbatim DVD-RW. Now, which of these has the very best reflectivity? I want to know, becuase I want my backups to be the quietest they can be. Now, if Verbatim is good because of Taiyo Yuden dye, then I will just get Taiyo Yuden, because I don't want to play the guessing games of buying name brand media.

Also, what is making the noise when a Dvd backup is being read? Is it something a replacement Dvd drive will fix? Or is it media related?A combination of both? Is it the laser itself, or the in the PS2's case, the laser head moving up and down the rail. As my quote indicates, would oiling that spar help?

Here is a post I made on PS2-Scene.org, because I also want the best DVD media for my PS2.

[pepsik]

1. Riteks are my queitest discs but Apple discs are also very good. Verbatims are good but they do contract out so sometimes you might get CMC dye instead of Taiyo Yuden.

2. The noise can depend on a few things, dust in the lense is a big cause. The speed which the disc was burnt is another factor. On ps2 some folks get better read times from 2x burnt discs and others report 24x burnt discs work well. If anything give your drive a good cleaning. Or consider getting a samsung drive.

3.cd-r media is basically the same as dvd-r media when it comes to manufacturing. I've used riteks for years and verbatims are usually made better than the dvd-r counterpart. Fujifilm uses Taiyo Yuden dye sometimes.

You know who the good manufacturers are already as you seem to have them listed. Except for TDK......they seem to always use CMC dye, which is just crap.

[jesterrace777]

Verbatim generally use the Mitsubishi Chemicals dye which is great but unless they are on sale, Taiyo Yuden are cheaper. After seeing bench tests of various different media, I am convinced that Taiyo Yuden is the best BAR-NONE. With that said, Mitsubishi Chemicals (aka MCC) is right on it's heels. So I would simply say to go for the one that you can find the best price on as the difference between the two would be very minimal. If you do go the Verbatim (Mitsubishi Chemical) route you will have to keep an eye out for specials, and make sure to check the packaging and see if it actaully says that they are manufacured by Mitsubishi Chemicals (you will see the Mitsubishi logo on the back). As mentioned above though, Taiyo Yuden are generally better priced and just a hair more compatible/durable. You can get 50 packs of 4x Taiyo Yuden DVD-R for $45+shipping from http://www.rima.com right now. As for the person who told you Verbatim DVD-RW were the best. . .well, yes and no. Verbatim could easily be one of the best DVD-RW medias out there but there is no comparing the compatibility of DVD-RW to DVD-R, no matter how good the dye is. Stick to a quality DVD-R media for best results. Ritek DVD-R are definitely the best media for the cost but if you want the absolute best, then I would say Taiyo Yuden is what you are looking for.

[Jagaer]

Taiyo Yuden are the best (in my experience, and that of the tests done at cdfreaks) but I prefer Riteks as they are easier to find and a little less expensive.

If you want your xbox to be quiet, not just the backup/laser, why are you still using a v1.0? It is MUCH louder than the later revisions.

[ncasebee]

I'm only worried about DVD read noise, not Gpu/Case fan noise. Also, how much would replacing the lasers help. However, if original Dvd's are still quiet, there is no reason to replace a laser, because quiet can still be achieved. Right?

I guess the same goes for cd media. Verbatim/Taiyo Yuden.

I'm not trying to achieve compatibility, I'm trying to achieve silence. However, I guess they are all interconnected.

Just ordered the ones you suggested, have been eyeing those for some time. I'll see what the very best media has to offer, noise level wise. Hopefully, I won't be able to hear them. Please!!! Please!!!!! Wouldn't it be sweet if they were as quiet as originals. They are the best right. I've done a little research too, and Taiyo Yuden is apparently of extremely high quality. I guess I'll see.

Next, I have to decide on CD-R media.(I know this is PS2 related, but.)

I guess it's verbatim(DataLifePlus) or Taiyo Yuden. Which will it be? Or is there another. I am looking for "The Very Best". In terms of quality/sound.

New titile for this forum. "The Very Best."

This post has been edited by ncasebee: Aug 20 2004, 02:18 AM

[jesterrace777]

Taiyo Yuden is also the champ for CD-R media. With CD-R media you have two options, you can either order the Taiyo Yuden branded CD-Rs from rima.com or you can go down to your local store and pick up the Fujifilm CD-Rs that are MADE IN JAPAN. They must be MADE IN JAPAN. These are gauranteed to always carry the Taiyo Yuden dye and it isn't too hard to find specials on them from officemax or bestbuy. Apparently you can also find the Taiyo Yuden dye on the Fujifilm DVD-R discs that are made in Japan however, the cost is quite a bit more than on the generic Taiyo Yuden DVD-R discs. For the PS2, keep in mind that CD-R are the most stressful on the laser and reguardless of how high a quality you are getting (even TY) there is a world of difference in noise between a 4x burned CD-R (slowest speed on most newer burners) and a 16x CD-R. I won't lie to you and tell you that it is as quiet as a factory pressed original but it certainly isn't the horrible "chainsaw" sound that you often hear with CD-Rs. Anyways, for the noise factor on the XBOX and PS2 (CD-R or DVD-R) try burning at slower speeds and see if that also makes a difference. Anyways, if you wish to carry on the conversation about PS2 then go over to ps2ownz or ps2news.

This post has been edited by jesterrace777: Aug 20 2004, 07:30 AM

[eminvil_12]

hi personally i use VERBATIM(data life iplus)DVD-R.
i have tried heaps of other types of media but these are extremely quite and pretty cheap when found on sale.
I recomend verbatim data life plus dvd-r all the way
The quality is also very good, not one has frze or not worked for me yet

This post has been edited by eminvil_12: Aug 20 2004, 09:29 AM

[truefate]

my friend uses TDK and has never had an issue. as a matter of fact thats what we used to flash his bios and install evox. maybe we got lucky but he has been using them and only them for some time with not one issue and he is running a thompsons crap dirve :}

[ncasebee]

I've tried TDK. Uhg...I had a totally different expierence. My expierence: Slow, and extremely loud. Loading times were as much as 20 seconds greater than on Ritek. I'm never using TDK again. But remember, you may have gotten good dye, and I got shitty die.

I think I might go down to staples and get some FujiFilm, if what your saying is true, if Taiyo Yuden is guaranteed on Fujifilm, and that die is the very best. Then I don't have to wait.

[Mr Ed]

[jesterrace777]

That is because TDK is not consistant with who it chooses to manufacture it's dyes. In the past they generally stuck to Ritek and Taiyo Yuden, however as of late they have started using dye manufacturers like CMC Mag quite frequently (lower quality). This is why I don't recommend name brand media (for the most part) as they will just end up costing you more and you are taking a gamble with what you are getting from batch to batch. It isn't unheard of name brand companies to have different quality dyes in the same batch. @ncasebee, the Taiyo Yudens I listed (DVD-R) are going to be significantly cheaper than their Fujifilm counterparts, or were you talking about the CD-R media?

This post has been edited by jesterrace777: Aug 20 2004, 06:34 PM

[ncasebee]

I was talking about CD media. I already bought the Taiyo Yudens DVD-R you suggested at Rima.com.

[jesterrace777]

Oh okay. Post back with your findings. *EDIT* BTW make sure you check the label on the Fujifilm and make sure it says MADE IN JAPAN. I don't want you to buy some Fujis made in Taiwan and then ask me why they don't carry Taiyo Yuden.

This post has been edited by jesterrace777: Aug 20 2004, 07:43 PM

[Heet]

Wow glad all you media gurus posted. I have been enlightened.

[ncasebee]

Heading down to get some Fujis. Yeah, I think this post is very good, and useful for everyone.