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lordvader129
post Jan 7 2005, 02:34 AM
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OK, first off, I would like to emphasize this is Marriage Theory, no one can say for sure this is whats going on, its simply the explanation for current bannings I find to have the most evidence to support it.

Preface: When Did All This Start?

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Marriages seem to have been made since July 2004 or so, the bans started circa November 9th 2004.

What this means if you have not been on Live since July 2004 you can upgrade your HD now and get back on Live without worry.

It also means that if you have been using the same HD since July 2004 (IE you upgraded before that time) you are also safe from ban.

Chapter 1: What Is Marriage Theory?

Marriage Theory is simple, when you first log in to XBOX Live your Eeprom and Hard Drive serial number are "married" or linked together in whatever files MS has on their servers.

Chapter 2: OK, So What Does That Mean?

Well it means that instead of just banning the Eeprom, as in the past, you Hard Drive is also banned.

Additionally, it means that if either Eeprom or Hard Drive are changed without the other (IE: HD upgrade after using Live or Eeprom replacement after banning) you will get banned.

**UPDATE** It seems that while eeproms are married to HDs the Hard Drives can be polygamists, an unbanned (yet not "virgin") HD can be married to multiple Eeproms. So moving an unbanned Hard Drive to a new xbox will not result in a ban, even if the HD has been on Live with another Xbox.

Chapter 3: Whatever, Just Tell Me How Do I Get Around It?

Well, obvious solution, don't change HDs after using Live. However, if you must, you can do 1 of 2 things...

Option 1: Set up a switch to use your old Hard Drive on Live.

Option 2: Obtain and flash a new Eeprom at the same time you upgrade your Hard Drive.

And as always, never, EVER connect to Live with your modchip enabled.

Chapter 4: What If I Am Already Banned? What Do I Do Now?

As before you will need to obtain an unbanned Eeprom, however now you will also need to obtain an unbanned Hard Drive (you can still keep your old one if it is an upgraded HD using Option 1 from Chapter 3)

**UPDATE** See Chapter 5 below

Chapter 5: Flagged GamerTags

Guess I was wrong on this one folks, it seems MS is indeed flagging GamerTags, if you have been banned under a particular GamerTag it seems to be scrutinized more closely, and will get you banned again if you have any upgraded Hard Drive (even if you comply with Marriage Theory and have the chip off)

Obvious solution: get a new GamerTag.

However you can still use a flagged GamerTag provided you only sign on with a stock Hard Drive (see Chapter 3, Option 1)

I do not believe they are actually banning GamerTags, if you receive a messege saying your account has been suspended for 1-3 months this is not due to a modified Xbox, this is due to complaints and negative feedback from other players. This is generally a direct result of your actions during games, these negative actions include rudeness, swearing, racial and ethnic slurs, cheating, teamkilling and generally being a buttnugget. Take your suspension, do your time and when you come back just grow up.


Once again I would like to stress this is merely the working theory for whats going on with the recent bannings, I do not claim to know for certain what is going on at MS headquarters or in Billy G's head.

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locking teh drive will get you to be able to boot your xbox up with the stock bios, to get you on Live. But to play a gam, you need an original disc. so its either you get teh games out of the safe deposit box, or you dont go xbox live.
just remember that if you dont want to go live, you can allways use tunneling software to play other people by the internet.
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lordvader129   Marriage Theory 101   Jan 7 2005, 02:34 AM
lordvader129   Appendix A: What About LPC Scanning? I have only ...   Jan 7 2005, 02:36 AM
xprimex   great post LordVader!   Jan 7 2005, 04:11 AM
singh   this should get pinned. Great post   Jan 7 2005, 04:56 AM
shanafan   Mentioned in the pinned topic just now   Jan 9 2005, 10:36 PM
Gumba   This current thread deals with only the basics of ...   Jan 7 2005, 04:28 PM
lordvader129   im not sure GTs get flagged at all, if they do it...   Jan 8 2005, 03:51 AM
Gumba   Are they using large HDs?   Jan 10 2005, 06:33 AM
harrytasker   What happens if i copy my live account from one or...   Jan 7 2005, 07:40 PM
Fofer   Bingo: you're wrong. Read the post, open yo...   Jan 7 2005, 09:00 PM
aaron1017   LordVader, Not sure if this contradicts the marri...   Jan 10 2005, 02:23 AM
Gumba   The Marriage Theory post says this Drive Cross-...   Jan 10 2005, 06:26 AM
lordvader129   what post in this from? id like to add it to my g...   Jan 10 2005, 06:54 AM
Gumba   The initial post was linked from the marriage th...   Jan 11 2005, 03:54 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   this is a great thread. good thinking lordvader129   Jan 10 2005, 02:38 AM
lordvader129   hmm, when was the last time you used the red xbox ...   Jan 10 2005, 02:39 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   i was going to say... if you signed in with teh...   Jan 10 2005, 02:45 AM
aaron1017   Vader... I play on LIVE with the RED XBOX about 3 ...   Jan 11 2005, 05:06 AM
Gumba   And?   Jan 12 2005, 05:07 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   just wondering, id b pointless saying soemthing...   Jan 12 2005, 06:12 AM
aaron1017   And I've been fine since...I play on the cryst...   Jan 12 2005, 07:25 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   good to see that you answered   Jan 12 2005, 10:31 AM
66Nicks   I have JUST bought XBOX live, and after reading al...   Jan 13 2005, 07:39 AM
lordvader129   well if you want to use Live youll have to go get ...   Jan 13 2005, 07:41 AM
66Nicks   I've given up trying to find the torx bit to o...   Jan 13 2005, 07:59 AM
lordvader129   sounds liek an aladdin is there a number in the u...   Jan 13 2005, 08:42 AM
Alucard7   sorry to change the subject but i am a little conf...   Jan 13 2005, 10:40 AM
66Nicks   Yes, theres the # 05 in upper left corner and t...   Jan 14 2005, 05:21 AM
lordvader129   05 is definately HD not locked once the HD is loc...   Jan 14 2005, 07:22 AM
66Nicks   Thx guys, yeah I have been using xbconnect for aw...   Jan 15 2005, 06:37 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   well a locked drive is just a stupid thing thst m...   Jan 15 2005, 06:51 AM
66Nicks   That sounds like a good plan, I have config magic ...   Jan 15 2005, 07:02 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   the master password that it will create for teh...   Jan 16 2005, 10:33 AM
66Nicks   Thx for the help guys.. I've been playing LIVE...   Jan 17 2005, 10:03 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   if you do the backup with evox, then they shoul...   Jan 17 2005, 11:20 AM
gunit202   i got a hhdkey.bin and an EEprom.bin file from me ...   Jan 18 2005, 03:59 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   yes you could do that, but that wouldnt do anyt...   Jan 19 2005, 11:35 AM
chronicboy   hey i'm not shure if anybody is going to reply...   Jan 20 2005, 06:05 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   no, i dont think they scann the hard drives, ...   Jan 20 2005, 09:34 AM
dkilp   I have a v1.6b xbox and when i boot to the xbox...   Jan 21 2005, 12:26 AM
Gumba   No. It means they can see the saved games which...   Jan 21 2005, 04:56 PM
chuckalicious   Okay, so let me get this straight.... The marriag...   Jan 21 2005, 06:29 PM
Gumba   Its created when you first connect to XBL. Yes, ...   Jan 25 2005, 01:35 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   youll get banned if you swap teh drives, then g...   Jan 25 2005, 01:43 AM
me_007x   Thanks Vader, I've been looking for this post....   Jan 21 2005, 11:26 PM
dkilp   [/QUOTE]QUOTE(dkilp @ Jan 21 2005, 12:57 AM) I hav...   Jan 22 2005, 01:01 AM
noonan2678   A quick question... I have an executor 3 and have...   Jan 23 2005, 08:30 AM
lordvader129   updated with some old/new information   Jan 26 2005, 12:32 AM
Lord Magnus   I like the new updates on this. Keep up the good w...   Jan 26 2005, 02:25 PM
ferrari_rulz_02   yer great work lordvader with the updates. better ...   Jan 27 2005, 12:06 PM
Thathrillest   here is my situation: i burned halo 2 to my hard d...   Jan 31 2005, 03:10 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   yer an eeprom is a motherboard thing. from wha...   Jan 31 2005, 08:33 AM
CoheednCambria   I donīt understand how u got banned. U copied th...   Jan 31 2005, 08:41 AM
lordvader129   its likely h2 auto logged in while he was playing...   Jan 31 2005, 09:00 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   ^^^he's a thinker :) thats why if i get li...   Jan 31 2005, 09:17 AM
Gumba   The eeprom is stored on the motherboard, not the h...   Jan 31 2005, 06:05 AM
Gumba   I think you mean a bios. Anywho, there is *no* ex...   Jan 31 2005, 10:11 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   yer thats what i meant. well bioses go on chips...   Jan 31 2005, 11:24 AM
chuckalicious   Ok, if there's no excuse.... what BIOS' su...   Jan 31 2005, 12:48 PM
chuckalicious   Okay, to answer my own question, I have read that ...   Jan 31 2005, 01:21 PM
NipsMG   Xbins: XBOX\Exploits\Bios Patchers an...   Jan 31 2005, 03:10 PM
chuckalicious   Nice one mate :)   Jan 31 2005, 03:57 PM
chuckalicious   Ok, so downloaded the file, and read the instructi...   Jan 31 2005, 04:12 PM
chuckalicious   Or would it be better simply to do the normal EvoX...   Jan 31 2005, 04:31 PM
ferrari_rulz_02   well id say use evox   Feb 1 2005, 01:12 PM
chuckalicious   And you'd be right :) Did it last night. Fla...   Feb 1 2005, 01:25 PM
lars1273   I have a box that I played XBL about a year ago an...   Feb 1 2005, 09:31 PM
Gumba   You should be fine as the marriages only started t...   Feb 2 2005, 03:01 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   yer youll be fine. for a year ago, tehy were on...   Feb 2 2005, 08:30 AM
deea111   whats up xbox-scene. i've been reading this t...   Feb 4 2005, 09:51 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   well it sounds like what he did was change dteh ee...   Feb 4 2005, 10:38 AM
MyS2006   question here my friend got banned tonight he has ...   Feb 5 2005, 04:09 AM
lordvader129   theres some conflicting info on that one, some sa...   Feb 5 2005, 05:11 AM
MyS2006   okay i found a segate that i had in my box stock h...   Feb 5 2005, 08:26 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   yepp   Feb 5 2005, 11:53 AM
chuckalicious   Just to update this. I signed up to Live at the we...   Feb 7 2005, 10:54 AM
CGMneon   Hi all. I've been away from Live for about th...   Feb 8 2005, 04:27 AM
chuckalicious   I think that would be correct. Because the hardwar...   Feb 8 2005, 09:39 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   i think its all about timing. when did they star...   Feb 8 2005, 12:37 PM
Gumba   The marriages seemed to be started circa July 2004...   Feb 9 2005, 02:35 AM
sniper666   Thought i would post here bc its related to xbox l...   Feb 9 2005, 02:57 AM
CGMneon   Thanks for the replies, gang. I ended up buying a ...   Feb 9 2005, 07:15 AM
CGMneon   Well, I got screwed trying to buy a new Xbox on eB...   Feb 9 2005, 05:26 PM
Gumba   The usual means is to buy one from zodiiak in th...   Feb 10 2005, 02:16 AM
CGMneon   Thanks for the reply, Gumba. I took a closer lo...   Feb 10 2005, 03:04 AM
Gumba   No, when you buy an "eeprom" from someon...   Feb 10 2005, 08:37 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   thats right. when you buy it, you get teh file....   Feb 14 2005, 09:12 AM
Devastator36   ok you probably answered this but ive been trying ...   Feb 16 2005, 12:43 AM
ferrari_rulz_02   well id say with a new eeprom, you would be safe. ...   Feb 17 2005, 10:36 AM
tNCecil   Now, i havent checked this thread in a while, but ...   Feb 19 2005, 08:13 AM
Gumba   Marriages seem to have been made since July 2004...   Feb 19 2005, 04:44 PM
ferrari_rulz_02   i think that needs to be put in liek the first ...   Feb 22 2005, 09:58 AM
feet14   Post's can only be edited for 15 minutes aft...   Feb 22 2005, 01:36 PM
lordvader129   that doesnt hold true for everyone :P added the...   Feb 22 2005, 07:30 PM
adam9986   Right...so after taking about 8 years out of my li...   Feb 22 2005, 05:21 PM
lordvader129   well if you were banned under a particualr GT the...   Feb 22 2005, 07:32 PM
lordvader129   i see some new theories being slung around about r...   Feb 23 2005, 08:46 PM
LooGieLV   is it possible that MS has a way of spiking the ...   Feb 24 2005, 03:37 AM
HL_101   Isn't it posible that they do some manual chec...   Feb 23 2005, 11:07 PM
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