The Power Cord Conspiracy, Here's the truth Options

[anticrap1234]

i knew ms could never make anything bug free. xboxes hav problems os's have problems. it must suk being a company that has never had a perfect product. And also my friend has a 1.0 and he got a regular chord. was this a mistake?

[Altima NEO]

Just got my PSU yesterday. Ive got a 1.0 box. Havent checked to see if it is indeed a foxlink, and if the joints are cracked. But youd think they would have taken more care than to do a crappy solder job on something that "serious"

So has anyone actually heard any reports of any xboxs catching on fire?

[scoo6y]

This whole power cable seems to be a huge mess.

I tend to agree that it is incredibly cynical of MS to attempt to do a fix instead of a recall.

One fact that interests me is that the fix has come into act now, however xboxs made since last year are not affected. This seems to suggest that M$ may have identified a potential problem some time ago, addressed this properly on new xboxs and then the lawyers and analysts only decided that fixing the rest and avoiding lawsuits was more cost effective recently.

This may explain M$ lame excuse for not replacing cables in india. 220v is pretty close to what i run in the UK, and 220v is used extensively in Europe, and my equipment works there fine. If the problem is indeed arcing over bad joints 220v vs 240v will make hardly any difference anyway, arcing will still happen! So it seems that M$ will not fix in india maybe because indian law does not protect it's citizens as thorughly as other countries (this is speculation, if n e one could shed some light i would be most interested)?

I hope to get a less loose cable in the post soon, perhaps i'm the lucky one, but this stinks to high heaven...

[samic]

i dont get how can the xbox's solder point just al of a suddenly "break away" or "disconnect"... i mena does anybody know the cause????

coz it has cold soldering, lousy soldering job.

Edit: Since no one notice so I repeated again. My PSU is DELTA and it did smoke and spark!
Either I'm extremely unlucky or it's not only Foxlink PSU has problem!

[Animus]

I KNEW IT!!!

I believe my v1.0 XBOX started having problems around August 2003. At first it wouldn't start, but if I rigged the power cord in a way it would. After having it spark, smoke and completely not work anymore, I decided to pop her open and BAM. I soldered EXACTLY where it shows in your picture. For some odd reason, those 2 spots seem to spark and eventually burn out the solder. In the end, I fixed the problem and ordered a mod chip since my box was open anyways!

I believe the problem begins with people jamming the power cord too hard in to the back of the XBOX and shaking the 2 soldering points OFF the board. This can be caused by frequent removal/plugging of the power cord, as well as leaving the power cord attached to the XBOX while transorting the XBOX in some sort of Backpack or travelling case... At least that's what did it for me.

[lammetje]

The xbox that i have is from 2002, Europe / Thomson problem drive / PAL version 1.0
The PSU connector is mounted on two extra solder joints (see picture)..but i also got a new cord



This post has been edited by lammetje: Feb 24 2005, 11:49 PM

[bnbolic]

Can anyone say class action lawsuit? This is BS...Anyone a Lawyer what are our rights? Can we Sue M$ class action style?

[GaveUp]

I don't know about anyone else, haven't read through the thread entirely yet, but my cable does not look anything like those pictured. My cable looks almost exactly like the cable that came with the xbox. Maybe they are sending different cables to people based on the version of their xbox?

[megahurtz]

I got my box in the mail today and it had the big clunker of a afi inside of it. This issue has me interested though, so I opened up my xbox and was sort of suprised to see that there was a DELTA psu inside of it.

The power plug also had a couple bolts holding it to the psu pcb, but I didn't remove the entire board to check the underside for the bad solder points. It seems that more than just foxlink owners are getting the "protection cord"...

v1.0 xbox mfg date 11-21-01
delta psu

I took pics of my xbox, the psu, and the protection cable if anybody wants to see them.

This post has been edited by megahurtz: Feb 25 2005, 01:25 AM

[cc86]

I got my box in the mail today and it had the big clunker of a afi inside of it.  This issue has me interested though, so I opened up my xbox and was sort of suprised to see that there was a DELTA psu inside of it.

The power plug also had a couple bolts holding it to the psu pcb, but I didn't remove the entire board to check the underside for the bad solder points.  It seems that more than just foxlink owners are getting the "protection cord"...

v1.0 xbox mfg date 11-21-01
delta psu

I took pics of my xbox, the psu, and the protection cable if anybody wants to see them.

Crap, my xbox was made the day before yours; it also has a delta psu. Guess that means I'm likely getting the big ass power cord.

[me_007x]

Considering some Delta PSU xbox owners are getting the big boy, I wonder if M$ have known about this for quite a long time?

Did they not bother keeping a track of what hardware went in what machine initially then, suddenly, found that one of the PSU's was breaking (perhaps one of their own test machines starting arcing) and so they decided to keep track of the PSU in case it became an issue, which it now has.

[megahurtz]

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jcasey1067@s...lbum?.dir=/4a03

Here is my Yahoo photo gallery with my pics. You can clearly see the Delta psu in one of them and I also took some detail shots of the protection cord itself. The shots are all 5mp and ~2megs each.

This post has been edited by megahurtz: Feb 25 2005, 01:56 AM

[fahrenheit]

This is from a thread on the offical xbox forums

I myself have 2 xboxs so of course I ordered two new cords. I was sent two different types of cords. While one is the above disscused Mini-MeXbox, the other is only refered to as a replacement cable and looks prety much the same as the original. Calling 1-800-4MY-XBOX proved uneasy at best. They told me that both would work fine in either box. The next curious-minded question would be ???WHY???the difference?? There was no prepared answer for the outsource-like tech help I was getting. BTW the music while being on hold........ouch man, ouch.
I have no idea if the cords are specific to a certain timeline in the production of xboxs. I have a Thomson Drive in one and a Samsung in the other. I don't even know if thats timeline production relevent either. Any shiney rays we could throw my way would be smashing.

power cord discussion

I also have two consoles, a 1.1 and a 1.3 that are manufactured seven months apart. Both have Delta PSU (two different models) Today one of the cables showed up and it has the 'boat anchor' in the middle, of course there is no indication as to which console it belongs to, and I wait anxiously to see what the next one will be.

EDIT: I'm in New Zealand which is 240v

This post has been edited by fahrenheit: Feb 25 2005, 02:11 AM

[rrife]

At first I commented in another thread, but I feel that this is important enough to deserve its own thread.

So, here's the deal. MS lied.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the Xbox power cords. MS just had the recall to cover their butts (they had to do something, but recaling every 1.0/1.1 console would be way too expensive).

The real problem is the Foxlink power supply. There have been numerous reports of "loose power connectors" in xboxes, and the cause of this is that the solder joints on the PSU have actually broken where the connector mounts to the board, which can result in the xbox not powering on, or possibly even sparks, smoke, and fire.

I got my power cord replacement today and it doesn't look much different than the original cable....no GFI on it.

[temjin46]

MSoft sent me a huge end beastly end for my new power cable and I just got finished opening up my v1.0 Xbox. I have Delta power supply. Hmm, well I also know this, when plugging in the cable, I get no sparks at all.
Just to get an idea of the average use I have for my Xbox, is typically I bring it to a friends house every-so-often, but not much.
Thought you guys would like to know.