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> The Power Cord Conspiracy, Here's the truth
admiralj
post Feb 25 2005, 02:34 AM
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Add this one to the list:
1.0 xbox, Delta PSU, solder joints broken off (hard to tell in pics below, but they're broken). Replaced the Delta with another 1.0 PSU from llamma.com about a year ago after the Delta had issues where sometimes it would power on and other times it wouldnt. (cant remember if the replacement was FoxLink or Delta, but looked identical to the old Delta one.)

In retrospect, I suppose i didn't have to pay the $30 or whatever for the replacement PSU. The old one was prob a-ok. Thank you MS. mad.gif Anyone want a spare 1.0 delta PSU? smile.gif

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post Feb 25 2005, 04:26 AM
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I got my Power cord replacement today..and I recieved the fat one that a lot of people are getting.

I have a Early 1.1 XBOX w/ Delta PSU. I noticed when i plug my Power Cord in there is a slight pop, should I open my xbox up to see if the soldier points are busted? I have had no problem powering up the xbox and the new Power cord replacement showed the green LED so everything is good to go.
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post Feb 25 2005, 04:42 AM
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Still waiting on my cable, but I opened my XBOX anyhow to check what PSU it has in it...low and behold it is a foxlink, however my XBOX is a 1.2/1.3 from the 2003 holiday season (and mfg'ed summer 2003). I noticed someone else had a newer XBOX with a foxlink which was a "revision-H" model, whose joints looked fine. Mine is a "revision-B", however I haven't taken it out to check the joints yet (although it has never sparked or anything on me).

I've made another thread about the foxlink revisions, hoping those of you with foxlinks will enter what rev you have, and what XBOX rev you have (and if you had any problems/bad solder joints).

Also, I know it has been posted in this forum, but is anyone planning on making a repair tutorial for the foxlinks to put in the tutorials section of xbox-scene? Before I attempt any repair or prevention on my XBOX, I'd like something a bit more concrete (some of the posts in this thread contradict one another)...also it would be good reference for ppl in the future.

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post Feb 25 2005, 08:36 AM
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i would like to say to the guy above...it is a concrete fact that the psu solder joints break on any version because even with the extra supports...why...the number 1 reason in my opinion is because idiots take there xbox over to there buddies house and are too lazy to take the cords outta the xbox... so what do they do? wrap the cords so tight around the xbox that they put an enormously huge strain on the solder joints... even on a box with extra supports...ive seen hundreds of idiots do this...if they didnt have such a huge gap on the box and the psu connecter there wouldnt be a problem...can anyone with a 1.6 tell me how tight the psu connecter is to the case...cause if i remember right they are tighter and that is why they wouldnt need a replacement

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post Feb 25 2005, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ Feb 25 2005, 05:42 PM)
i would like to say to the guy above...it is a concrete fact that the psu solder joints break on any version because even with the extra supports...why...the number 1 reason in my opinion is because idiots take there xbox over to there buddies house and are too lazy to take the cords outta the xbox... so what do they do? wrap the cords so tight around the xbox that they put an enormously huge strain on the solder joints... even on a box with extra supports...ive seen hundreds of idiots do this...if they didnt have such a huge gap on the box and the psu connecter there wouldnt be a problem...can anyone with a 1.6 tell me how tight the psu connecter is to the case...cause if i remember right they are tighter and that is why they wouldnt need a replacement
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yer i agree with that. i know the 1.6's power cord is tight as.

i think you would have to be fucken lazy to not take the cord out when you move it. i would have thought it was a well known fact that if you bend a joint like that, it can and will break.
but i also think that some of the psu's need some soldering as well.

so its siz of one, half a dozen of the other
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post Feb 25 2005, 09:30 AM
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Im not sure if this is the case for everyone(im in aus), but when i got my cord the serial number of the xbox was on the address label. Just incase your wondering which cord belongs to which xbox.
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post Feb 25 2005, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(aweelz @ Feb 25 2005, 06:36 PM)
Im not sure if this is the case for everyone(im in aus), but when i got my cord the serial number of the xbox was on the address label. Just incase your wondering which cord belongs to which xbox.
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same here. it shouldnt matter though should it?
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post Feb 25 2005, 12:20 PM
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I'm not sure how far this has come off topic, but I'd like to add my two cents if I may. I would agree about the "Power Cord Conspiracy" apporach (however conspiracy is a harsh word). I was confused when I heard about this recall. MS kept saying it was problems with the power cord being faulty. In my mind, I couldn't understand how a power cord, which is basically STRAIGHT THROUGH, could possibly be causing fires! I have inspected the power cables and they are probably of the best quality I have ever seen. Not only are they sturdy, but also made of fire-resistant plastic.
I guessed, but never came to the conclusion that the problem could actually be inside the xbox.
When MS decided to blow it's own horn in the press release about the recall, saying, "We did the responsible thing"... when supposedly millions of these cables are faulty, it was definately suspicious!
Lately I have been very upset with the way gates and Co. are running their own company. Like a bunch of lazy retards. First, Gates said in some statement, "windows does not need to make a bullt-in Anti-virus, there is plenty of great 3rd party software available" who does he think he is kidding?
Then, they released this new MS Ant-spyware. What a slap in the face to the whole windows userbase. Rather than admit the problem, they apply this bandaid (which they teased about making profit from) and now THIS "power cord" bandaid?? Sickening. MS was much more responsible when we had them in the courtrooms.
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post Feb 25 2005, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(aweelz @ Feb 25 2005, 07:36 PM)
Im not sure if this is the case for everyone(im in aus), but when i got my cord the serial number of the xbox was on the address label. Just incase your wondering which cord belongs to which xbox.
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Yes you are correct. It's amazing what you miss when you're mavelling at your shiny new boat anchor biggrin.gif

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post Feb 25 2005, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Feb 25 2005, 09:49 PM)
Yes you are correct. It's amazing what you miss when you're mavelling at your shiny new boat anchor  biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2005, 01:10 PM
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I was just confirming as azweel has pointed out, that the serial is on the address label and I completely missed it because the package is covered in so many damn numbers. My first cord to arrive is for my v1.1 (delta).

If I had Foxlink PSU's I would have checked and fixed them by now, but its frustrating not knowing what is going on with these Deltas. I want to fix the problem, not treat the symptom. mad.gif
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post Feb 25 2005, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(poiygon @ Feb 24 2005, 08:07 PM)
They're protected from damage to their entertainment center, but their Xbox will still short and no longer function. If the person thinks this will fix the issue, but their Xbox stops turning on, they'll probably switch back to the old power cord only to cause the damage that MS is trying to prevent. This just seems like a marketing ploy to show that MS cares about it's customers and stands behind its products.
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That's a damn good point! Probably the first thing your average Joe is going to do when his Xbox won't turn on is cast a suspicious eye at the complicated doofus-box MS insisted they use, and try another power cable, then get fried.
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post Feb 25 2005, 02:18 PM
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Hi,

I had to order 4 cords 3 for Pal Xbox 1.1's & 1 Pal Xbox 1.4.

As far as I know 2 1.1's are Delta Psu's & the 1.4 is a Delta Psu.

The 3 1.1's got the big blocks the 1.4 got a new standard cable.

Only the 1.4 is already faulty & only powers up 1 time out of about 25.

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post Feb 25 2005, 02:51 PM
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Hey guys, ... I was wondering ... 14 millions of xboxes with a PSU timebomb, ...
MS knowing that since several years, a power cord replacement that only prevent the cable to ignite, but what about the xbox? And if one of those sparkles instead of ignite the cable, set fire on any other thing that could be nearby?

Why don't we all sue MS

ass???


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We had to let everybody know the truth, we need visibility, the Media should talk
about that! The biggest 'MShit' since Windows ME !!!!
We should have a new xbox for replacement not a silly power cable!
We are 14 millions! If we can spend 1$ each for suing MS, I think we can have
Robert Shapiro as our lawyer!!
You know, uncle Bill knows what is worse than a lawsuit: negative publicity, and
with the xbox2 to launch ....

So, who start to take subscriptions?
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QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Feb 25 2005, 08:35 AM)
yer i agree with that. i know the 1.6's power cord is tight as.

i think you would have to be fucken lazy to not take the cord out when you move it. i would have thought it was a well known fact that if you bend a joint like that, it can and will break.
but i also think that some of the psu's need some soldering as well.

so its siz of one, half a dozen of the other
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I had the privilige of fixing a bad PSU myself. My cousins fan was making noise and when i opened the box i noticed the sparks. I don't know that i would blame this all on the solder joints though. I would have to say that everytime i plug in a cord it seems like the connector is not mounted very solid. If they would have added a clip to keep the stress off of the solder joints I would be surprised if they had this many cases of broken solder joints causing sparks. But I definately would say the power cords are a fricken joke. When I first heard about the recall it just sounded so stupid I didn't realize there were that many cases of broken solder joints like my cousins 1.0.
Still the xbox is a much more reliable system then the PS2.
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