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> The Power Cord Conspiracy, Here's the truth
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:41 AM
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We should hold a competition, who has the worst Foxlink psu smile.gif .
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:20 AM
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LOL!!!

soda came out my nose when I read M$'s "response"

So, here's MY response:

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MS denied any reports of power supply or soldering problems.


That is the most obvious LIE ive ever heard

Who are they trying to fool? We have definite PROOF that the foxlink 1.0/1.1 PSU's are defective (just look at the pages of replies from ppl with failed fox psu's). Also:

1. Failure rate on the delta and Mineba PSU's is substantially less then the foxlink (once again going by replies on this thread)

2. The fox PSU is the only one of the three that does not have any other bracing on the power connector than the 2 solder joints.

3. On the newer fox psu's (such as the one in my 1.4) the power connector now has extra bracing, showing that they DID recognize that it was a problem.

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The cord this consumer received is designed to shut off power to the Xbox if it detects an electrical condition called 'sustained overvoltage.' This rare condition can be caused by things like downed power lines in a wind storm or faulty wiring in a house


Bull. How come the xbox is so special that it needs this, when most other electrical equipment doesnt come with a cord like this? We all know damn well that it is to shut off the xbox when the power supply goes up in smoke.

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not all cords that we supply to program participants will look the same. Which type of cord is shipped depends on the date the console was manufactured


So, why do some xboxes not need to be protected from this "sustained overvoltage". This once again proves that the cause of the recall was some problem with the older consoles that had been fixed, covered up, and ignored for three years.

Burn.

This is what I think M$ whould do:

They know which xboxes have the bad PSU's, because they send out power cords accordingly.

So, you type in your xbox's serial number, and they sond you a new Delta or Mineba power supply, with detailed installation instructions (for the dummies).

The affected consoles are already way out of warranty, so the user opening the xbox to replace the psu would be no problem.

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post Mar 1 2005, 01:49 AM
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How can we take legal action? Is there not grounds for a class action lawsuit? Someone earlier posted that here in the US we have passed or are passing laws to limit class action lawsuits, I am unaware of this fact but either way why don't we all get together and challenge M$ somehow?

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post Mar 1 2005, 02:06 AM
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Why don't we all go post pictures of the burnt Foxlink PSU's on xbox.com's forums. I bet we get banned for saying anything like that.
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:39 AM
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Does anyone with a 1.0 delta got a GFI Plug?

Did someone with a 1.2 or 1.3 and a foxlink psu get a GFI plug?
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE(kevinlekiller @ Mar 1 2005, 01:45 AM)
Does anyone with a 1.0 delta got a GFI Plug?

Did someone with a 1.2 or 1.3 and a foxlink psu get a GFI plug?
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1. Yes, a few (best guess is that at first they didn't keep track of which brand PSU was in each box, then once this problem surfaced they started keeping track. So, the REALLY old xboxes, they dont know which brand PSU is in there, so they send a AFI to all of em.)

2. Don't know.

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post Mar 1 2005, 03:04 AM
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himm pics didn't work
well it was refurbsed in 2002
it has a delta logo on it not FoxFire
its a 1.0
it looks intirly difrent.
Do you think M$ knew then.


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post Mar 1 2005, 03:55 AM
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M$ is full of shit!! I have seen so many xboxes catch fire and fry it almost embarasses me to stick with the XBOX. Dont let them fool you either about this being a problem of the past. I have two brand new xboxes made Nov 2004 and Dec 2004 and both spark when I plug in the power cord.
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Mar 1 2005, 02:06 AM)
1. Yes, a few (best guess is that at first they didn't keep track of which brand PSU was in each box, then once this problem surfaced they started keeping track. So, the REALLY old xboxes, they dont know which brand PSU is in there, so they send a AFI to all of em.)

2. Don't know.
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Thank you for your fast reply.

Is there another use to this AFI(GFI?) Thing for the xbox other than shutting it off in case of a malfunction?
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:29 AM
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well, i just curious, i got a crystal white edition xbox, manufactured Aug 2004, it's Rev 1.6, so far no problem (yet) for me, my region 240v though,

i got 1 question, can i just purchase any other power for use with the xbox? as long as the connector is fit?

i assume the transformer stuff is inside the the PSU, just like a PC, we could just use any cable (eg morlex) as long as the connectors fit?
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:52 AM
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one of the power supplies that I have got from a broken xbox the joints in them were loose and when you wiggled them it sparked sometimes. I had another one laying around so I put that one in there. M$ lies like a mutha.
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:56 AM
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This is most definitely a problem with their soldering. I know this because it happened to me. My box started becoming really flaky and shutting off, then it started smoking and burning. I opened it up, and saw that the power connector on the PSU was loose and not soldered properly to the board. I resoldered it, and it was fixed.

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post Mar 1 2005, 05:02 AM
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I thought micr0s0ft wouldn't comment on rumors?
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post Mar 1 2005, 05:11 AM
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I just tried to order a replacement cable. but it says that my box in unaffected. I have an LE green from Feb 2004. The power cord looks exactly like the newer ones you guys are getting (without the big box). I have a foxlink PSU in mine and I think my version is a 1.4 or 1.5.

Has anyone else got the xbox not affected screen? I'm paranoid that this box will catch fire and if it does I hope it takes my fat bitch of a girlfriend with it.


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i have another 1.4 with a delta psu (me have lots of xboxes, 6 i think, but one has a dead mobo), it said it was unaffected.

You should be fine, the newer foxlinks have the better reinforced power plug, its only thr 1.0/1.1 typw that have no support.
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