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> Fix A Corrupt Tsop With A Duox2, Heres how....
StrictPuppet
post Nov 14 2005, 02:08 AM
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**Disclaimer: This description relates to previously unmodified xboxes, ver. 1.0-1.3, it could possibly also work to repair a failed or incorrect tsop flash, but I have not yet needed to try. When dealing with a ver 1.0 or 1.1, try the 3 wire trick before doing this. The "Focus" video encoder in versions 1.4-1.5 is not supported by this bios, so this method will not boot on those versions. If dealing with a ver 1.6, this will not help you at all as they do not contain a flashable bios. This is my own personal experience, your experience may vary.**

As you may know, if you repair xboxes, or are unlucky enough to have it happen to you, it is possible for a completely stock/unopened box to do the 3 boot frag. You press the power button, eject LED goes green for half a second then box turns off, light goes green again(possibly even flashes green a couple times), then box turns off again, when it powers back up a third time it flashes red and green....NICE. If a visual inspection of the motherboard shows nothing obviously wrong (un-modded, no burst capacitors, no burnt traces), then it is possible you have a corrupt bios on the TSOP. How does this happen?? I really dont know, could be due to lightning, static discharge...not sure, but anyway, there is a problem and it needs to be fixed.

In order to flash the tsop or a modchip, you must boot from the device you are flashing. So if you want to flash an LPC mounted modchip, you boot from the LPC bus, likewise if you want to flash the tsop - you must boot from the tsop. So how do you do this if the tsop is corrupt? You cant boot from the tsop, if you could you wouldnt even be fixing it.... Commonly it is stated that the only way to fix this is with a 29 wire modchip, like an Xray, which basically piggybacks/overrides the tsop to load a substitute bios in the same fashion as the original tsop would. Well 29 wires is a lot to hook up, just to have to cut out again in order to flash. I will explain how to do this with a Doux2 lpc modchip. Ya I know I already said that you must boot from the tsop to flash the tsop, but i will expalin in a bit, how/why this works (if I can, it may just be some crazy voodoo shit)

Ok, so you have a ver 1.0-1.3 motherboard that FRAGs. Install a pinheader and d0 wire. I use a Duox2 because of the 2 switchable bios banks(and its easy to hold). Make sure you leave your d0 wire a little long.... about 4" to give you a bit of room. Boot the box with x2 4981(or whatever your preferred bios is, really doesnt matter but we want to just get the box to work). Make sure that your hdd has all the files required to operate normally, make sure hdd is locked etc, we dont want any error codes when we get it to boot. I do a format/m$ dash rebuild from an auto-installer disk to be sure all the required files are on the hdd. Now if you have an exploitable game like mechassault, then you should now install your game saves, like mecheurasia. I installed a soft mod at this point (krazies ndure) because when we get it to boot we really dont wanna risk having to eject and potentially reset the box, where we would need to start over again, but the choice is yours. Boot your box with the modchip a couple times to make sure every thing seems cool.

Now you need to locate a special bios to flash to your other bios bank on the duox2. It is an old bios by evox called "tsop_d6.bin", it was packed with an older version of evolutionx dash 3921. Xbins no longer hosts evox stuff, for reasons that are none of my business, so you will have to do some hunting to find it, DONT PM ME FOR IT!!! So put "tsop d6" on your duox2's other bank(figure out how to do that yourself) *Edit file is available on xbins once again.*

Make a Eurasia flash disk and a bios disk if you are using a soft mod, or make sure you have the right bios in your mecheurasia folder to flash to your tsop. I soldered a wire on my duox2 from the bt pad to pin 9 so the chip will always be enabled. Solder your tsop write enable points now as well if you havent already.

Basically what you now need to do is boot with d6. Put your exploitable game or eurasia flash disk in the drive(you wont be able to do this with the d6 bios as you cannot eject the tray so make sure you have it in before you switch bios banks). If you power on you will note that nothing happens, eject LED flashes green, harddrive clicks, dvd revs up and down....all sorts of weird stuff. What you try to accomplish is after about, 1 to 1.5 seconds, after you press the power button, you wanna pull the chip off the pinheader... it'll take you quite a few tries to get the timing right. A few things can happen, either it will continue to 3 boot frag-no good, you may get just a solid green LED with no audio/video-no good, you may get a flubber with a yellow X, or you may get just the regular M$ boot up. I am not sure if it will work when you get the yellow x as the time i got it to do that, I didnt have my flash enable points soldered on the motherboard, so not sure if the tsop or the chip would been flashed(eurasia said flash not writeable, well of course not the chip wasnt even on the pinheader, and the write points were disconnected) If you get the regular green x with M i c r o s o f t under the x, and your soft mod loads, or exploitable game loads(which you should have in the tray), you may now flash your tsop. I would advise you to flash it with x2 4981, even if you are just returning to retail (now you can reflash whatever you want back onto the tsop after this as it should always boot now without chip)

Why does it work, we booted from the lpc?? Well, not really sure, there is something special about the bios, and the fact that you interrupt the loading process of the bios, by pulling it off the pinheader... I guess a part of the hacked bios remains in ram, and it picks up the rest of it from the tsop, or it just delays the boot process to retry the bios load more times?? Maybe the code in the bios tells it to ignore the first # of kb and substitute its own. I dont have the answer....contact the evox team as they made the bios.

I have done this now on 3 different mobos with success, all were ver 1.2/1.3 Hope this helps someone fix a tsop, or at least gives them false hope....hahahah

Thanks to Lordvader129 for making me aware of this bios(I read it in one of his posts) And thanks to team evox for making such a thing.

*edit* clarification of versions, other updated info..

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post Apr 22 2009, 03:08 PM
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Hmm...so, if I use a bios that does support the focus video encoder (a bios that would work on a chip on a v1.4 xbox), then this would be a viable option? Or is this method still a no-go on a 1.4 for some other reason?

Thanks for the help!

Like I mentioned, I'd really like to fix (or try to fix) the TSOP, but I'm not interested in doing the 29 wire fix.
I've search the forums, and most people say the "only" option is the 29 wire chip(s).
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post Apr 22 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(skyknight @ Apr 22 2009, 06:00 AM) *

Hmm...so, if I use a bios that does support the focus video encoder (a bios that would work on a chip on a v1.4 xbox), then this would be a viable option? Or is this method still a no-go on a 1.4 for some other reason?

Thanks for the help!

Like I mentioned, I'd really like to fix (or try to fix) the TSOP, but I'm not interested in doing the 29 wire fix.
I've search the forums, and most people say the "only" option is the 29 wire chip(s).

theres a very good reason most people are saying the 29 wire chip is your only option, because it is

the TSOP fix bios are specially made, just any old hacked bios wont do the trick, and no TSOP repair bios were ever made for 1.4/1.5s, so your out of luck, sorry, best thing to do is just get a modchip and leave it in
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StrictPuppet   Fix A Corrupt Tsop With A Duox2   Nov 14 2005, 02:08 AM
lordvader129   actually xbins and evox appear to have made up an...   Nov 14 2005, 03:45 AM
xbix   It would be cool if this works. I nuked my TSOP (s...   Nov 15 2005, 12:55 PM
jiggle   I have also killed my tsop. I flashed it with a 1m...   Nov 15 2005, 02:16 PM
lordvader129   im not sure if it will work for you, i know the b...   Nov 15 2005, 05:54 PM
jiggle   I can get it to boot after 6 or 700 attempts at re...   Nov 15 2005, 07:10 PM
StrictPuppet   Since you have the d6 tsop bios already on the t...   Nov 16 2005, 04:39 AM
jiggle   Hi, thank you for your idea. I tried it last night...   Nov 16 2005, 01:07 PM
StrictPuppet   I received a few Pm's from people who didnt qu...   Nov 19 2005, 06:09 AM
Safrole   Is there an alternative to yanking the chip off th...   Nov 25 2005, 08:05 PM
lordvader129   in theory disconnecting d.0 should produce the sam...   Nov 25 2005, 09:50 PM
natasreficul   Well i have a big problem with my Xbox a logn time...   Nov 26 2005, 07:43 PM
lordvader129   youd need a 29-wire chip to fix the TSOP HOWEVER,...   Nov 26 2005, 10:10 PM
natasreficul   if posible to fix it with a white duox flash bios...   Dec 5 2005, 11:45 PM
minnow   Fix it, no. But a duox2 will fix the box. . . all...   Dec 6 2005, 07:11 PM
gazeddy   not neccesarily you just have to flash a reatil bi...   Dec 18 2005, 02:16 PM
natasreficul   well i install the duox 2 cromwell edition preflas...   Dec 20 2005, 09:40 PM
VerbalVenom   Resurrecting an old thread. Will this method work ...   Sep 11 2006, 05:32 AM
VerbalVenom   Also has anyone had success with any chip besides ...   Sep 11 2006, 08:57 AM
Iloveanime   Duox2 lite would that work? Or does it have to be ...   Feb 22 2007, 09:49 AM
Megabug   Mhh it won't work with a smartxx se opx. Tried...   Feb 25 2007, 01:04 PM
StrictPuppet   Mhh it won't work with a smartxx se opx. Trie...   Feb 26 2007, 06:40 AM
Dikkesnoek   Hello, I've tried this procedure. It seems no...   Apr 12 2007, 06:44 PM
burner6999   I have a question I have an Xbox (V1.3) that someo...   Apr 25 2007, 07:57 AM
StrictPuppet   I have a question I have an Xbox (V1.3) that some...   Apr 25 2007, 08:53 AM
skyknight   Sorry to bring up an old topic, but, this is exact...   Apr 21 2009, 04:39 PM
StrictPuppet   That bios does not support the focus video encoder...   Apr 21 2009, 07:43 PM
skyknight   theres a very good reason most people are saying ...   Apr 23 2009, 01:33 PM
Alex548   There's one more fix that most people don...   Apr 22 2009, 08:53 PM
Alex548   ^ The BIOS on the TSOP is bad. That's probably...   Apr 23 2009, 06:49 PM
MrMajst3r   Will this trick work for Xbox 1.0/1.1 with corrupt...   Feb 13 2012, 08:39 PM
xboxmods2977   MrMajst3r, I don't think the chip itself matte...   Feb 14 2012, 01:18 AM
MrMajst3r   No, I didn't try. I haven't got this Xbox ...   Feb 14 2012, 08:24 AM
XBOX360NYMODING   why could u not use a martix chip and fix the TSOP...   Jun 28 2012, 05:06 AM
shambles1980   ok.. sorry to post up an old thread.. but just ...   Jan 17 2013, 01:13 AM






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