Add Any Extra Button To Xbox 360 Wireless Controller Options

[jeremydammit]

glad there is still a lot of interest in this thread....amazing really!

[sebek1]

Thanks.

The tutorial shows how to scrape down a Via properly.

The Diodes in your diagram aren't necessary, or are those supposed to be just arrows?

I wouldn't go soldering onto those points. You'll have the wire on the top of the board and putting it back together will be sort of a pain.

You can hit all of those spots on the back of the board and only have to deal with 2 Vias. Be careful when soldering the wires on to the SMD Diodes, you shouldn't have any real problem hitting them with the iron and some 30AWG wire if you're careful.

X = Blue (solder wire to bottom leg of D8)

Y = Yellow Via (at the bottom)

A = Green (solder wire to top left leg of D10) and Dark Red Via (in the middle)

B = Red (solder wire to top right leg of D10)

X,Y,B Common = Orange (use the solder joint at the bottom for 1 wire split to 3, or all 3 of them)

The Trigger may or may not get in your way some, it's removed from this picture as is the Thumb Stick. I'd remove the Trigger just to be safe and to give ya all the room you'll need to do the soldering. It's held in by 3 solder joints for the POT (other side of the board) and then it just clips off of the board.

I followed your diagram but have one question, for the A button do you need to solder on both c48 and r23 on the left side for the a button or is enough to solder on r23 only?

This post has been edited by sebek1: Jun 7 2007, 03:40 PM

[RDC]

If ya followed the Diagram then you should have attached the wire to the Via. I don't recommend soldering onto the smaller components like that Resistor or Capacitor unless ya know what you're doing or have to. The diagram does show the left side of each are connected, so either or both can be used, take yer pick.

[teejcore]

thanks to all, as this thread has been very useful in my modding efforts. i have successfully run a couple leads from my left bumper (LB) to act as my 'A' button with a couple wires on the top of my PCB. however, somewhere along my attempts to fix this, i have accidentally disabled my right bumper (RB). could anyone please post where the traces go for this button in full detail? i didn't have to solder anything on the back of the right side, where some traces for RB run, and i can't seem to troubleshoot the problem. please help!!

[leolobato]

SECTION 9

These are the buttons for the left and right bumper buttons and the wireless detection button. same as before yellow and red to the buttons.

Hello everybody.

I'm new to this forum and I know this is an old thread, but I've checked everything here and nobody mentioned the wireless sync button. I'm setting up an 360 arcade stick and I've got every button done, except for triggers and wireless sync.

Has anyone tried the sync already? I've tested short-cutting it in these red/yellow points, but it doesn't work. This button has 3 soldering points in the board. I've tested bumpers and they are good using this way. Any ideas?

I don't have much experience with soldering, but I did manage to hook up all other buttons.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by leolobato: Jul 23 2007, 11:32 AM

[RDC]

Those 2 spots aren't for the Sync button, and they're actually already shorted together, don't know why they were chosen.

On the actual board it's the center and left spot of the 3 connections, the right one being tied to the left one, as well as the 2 top ones.

Look in the tutorials section for Controller mods, there are diagrams of where to hit all the spots for the buttons to make a Wired or Wireless Arcade stick in there, and the spots for Sync are fairly easy to hit as well as how to do the Triggers correctly.

[leolobato]

Those 2 spots aren't for the Sync button, and they're actually already shorted together, don't know why they were chosen.

On the actual board it's the center and left spot of the 3 connections, the right one being tied to the left one, as well as the 2 top ones.

Look in the tutorials section for Controller mods, there are diagrams of where to hit all the spots for the buttons to make a Wired or Wireless Arcade stick in there, and the spots for Sync are fairly easy to hit as well as how to do the Triggers correctly.

Thanks a lot, man! I'll search for that.

[funkwall]

Im still a little confused. How do you add the two buttons to the bottom of the remote where your middle fingers
lie. Do you have to put the buttons under the curcit board and the wires have to go over the top then under to the button? Because im not sure. if someone has a picture of the inside of their controller where they did this i would greatly appreciate it.

[spankymcgee27]

I have done this mod numerous times and have great success with it, but for some reason the last two that i have done have messed up the controller. it seems to happen when i try to add an extra A button. i know that i am soldering in the correct spot because i have done it many times before. the last 2 i have attempted have fried the buttons though. any thoughts?

[RDC]

I have done this mod numerous times and have great success with it, but for some reason the last two that i have done have messed up the controller. it seems to happen when i try to add an extra A button. i know that i am soldering in the correct spot because i have done it many times before. the last 2 i have attempted have fried the buttons though. any thoughts?

Dunno what to tell ya without knowing exactly what ya did, and hate to say it but since it's a fact I will, who knows what ya really did to it but you, and unless ya can show what ya did and how the controller acts now it's right impossible to say what or why it happened. I've done all kinds of things to the controllers, left traces cut, had a couple connected together that weren't supposed to be, and never had a single one puke on me, or ever had one die that I did right from the start.

What exactly is the definition of "fried the controller"? Have any pics of the places ya soldered to on these controllers? and not diagrams or anything here I mean, the actual controller itself? I'd be interested in looking at them to see what the damage really is, PM me about it.

Im still a little confused. How do you add the two buttons to the bottom of the remote where your middle fingers
lie. Do you have to put the buttons under the curcit board and the wires have to go over the top then under to the button? Because im not sure. if someone has a picture of the inside of their controller where they did this i would greatly appreciate it.

The new button gets mounted from inside the controller, just have to drill a hole for the actuator part of it to stick out, then secure it with hot glue or epoxy if yer feeling pretty confident the thing will last it's maximum lifetime. Ya have to make sure ya mount it in a location that's not going to hit the board or anything else in the controller when it all goes back together as well.

This is a typical duplicate A button setup, last pic it's pretty much all done except for the wires being soldered to the new button.

[spankymcgee27]

hey, well i just tried doing the A button with your soldering points and got it to work. i still don't see anything wrong with the last one that i did but oh well, i will just use your points for the A button from now on.

p.s. i made my first attempt at the permanent southpaw mod from lamma's website and actually had success. my friggin eyes were bleeding by the time i got done with it. it is a pretty cool mod though, you guys should check it out.

[Ripped Off]

if its a double shot controller, should there be a visible chip that i can see in between the buttons, wires, and traces? like this

added buttons----wires------chip-----wires-----traces

or could it be just

added buttons-----wires-----traces

but then thats just like adding an extra x button right?

[castlecrazy]

looks like the buttons on mouser are backordered for a month or so. Any ideas if there is any place else where I can get those buttons?

Oh yeah, and what is the green stuff in the picture above? Epoxy?

This post has been edited by castlecrazy: Sep 7 2007, 06:27 PM

[RDC]

hey, well i just tried doing the A button with your soldering points and got it to work. i still don't see anything wrong with the last one that i did but oh well, i will just use your points for the A button from now on.

p.s. i made my first attempt at the permanent southpaw mod from lamma's website and actually had success. my friggin eyes were bleeding by the time i got done with it. it is a pretty cool mod though, you guys should check it out.

Have a crack at a real Southpaw controller tutorial if ya want an eye bleed. I've also done the SP, LG and LG-SP with no trace cutting involved for the Wired controller as well as Wireless, Wired tutorial can be seen HERE.

if its a double shot controller, should there be a visible chip that i can see in between the buttons, wires, and traces? like this

added buttons----wires------chip-----wires-----traces

or could it be just

added buttons-----wires-----traces

but then thats just like adding an extra x button right?

Yes the Double Shot controller usually has a chip in there so it can be pulled off by pressing one button, there are people that sell it as the Double Shot though it only has the duplicate buttons under the bottom. That's not a 'true cheap arse' Double Shot controller though, just one that's easier to pull it off on since you still have to push all the buttons.

looks like the buttons on mouser are backordered for a month or so. Any ideas if there is any place else where I can get those buttons?

Oh yeah, and what is the green stuff in the picture above? Epoxy?

Green stuff is Hot Glue, never a good idea to Epoxy anything in the controller unless you want it to be pretty permanent, hot glue hold just fine and unless ya leave the thing in the car all day or in direct sunlight for hours it's not going to melt at all.

Any 6mm x 6mm x 7mm Tact switch will work pretty much, the 688-SKHHQW or 688-SKHHQY will work also and are in stock.

[Bg360]

I have been working on a project to remotely control an Xbox 360 through programmatic manipulation of a wired controller. So I have read this thread with great interest...

I would like to know if anyone can provide me (use) with a picture of the underside of a wired controller circuit board (where I need to solder wires) with all of the button contacts labeled. I have found the same for the wireless controller on the web but not the wired model.

Thanks, and if anyone is interested in following my progress on this project you can do so at:

Bg's Project Pages

It's a rudementary site I know, but I find it easier to describe my hobby activities with a web link!

Thanks everyone!

-Bg