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> Add Any Extra Button To Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
Emerica
post Jul 3 2008, 02:39 AM
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Heres the background, I have a buddy who just had shoulder surgery and I've been trying to reroute a few things. Specifically Left trigger, shoulder and thumbstick click.

Everything seemed to be fine until I made a noob solder mistake and fried the controller for the moment.
I'll work on that in free time, but today I picked up a new black controller. I'm having a hard time trying to find TP6 or an equiv, so that I can add the thumb stick click.

We had issues with up/click on the thumbstick with llamas spots so I'm guessing the Tp6 location was the right spot.

If anyone could help me out with the pinout for left thumb click on one of these newer boards that would be great.

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Thanks all for another great thread.

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post Jul 3 2008, 03:30 AM
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QUOTE(MaddMulligan @ Jun 25 2008, 10:35 AM) *

Hello all! I'm new to modding but I would like to give it a try. I have a question though. My son has a life threatening muscle disorder which limits the use of his hands, especially the strength in his hands. He loves playing Call of Duty 4 but has some trouble sniping. It is difficult for him to click the left stick button and hold it to take a deep breath, while holding the left trigger to bring up the scope. I was wandering if it is possible to combine those two functions into a single button. So, in other words, combine the left stick button and the left trigger into a new single button. And if it is possible, what would it involve?

That really depends on the controller and version of it you're dealing with. There's no reason it can't be done, but without knowing what exactly you're working with there's a few ways you could go about it. If you've never messed with anything like that before ya may be in for a bigger mess than ya plan on too, but it's something that's perfectly doable.




QUOTE(Emerica @ Jul 2 2008, 10:15 PM) *

Heres the background, I have a buddy who just had shoulder surgery and I've been trying to reroute a few things. Specifically Left trigger, shoulder and thumbstick click.

Everything seemed to be fine until I made a noob solder mistake and fried the controller for the moment.
I'll work on that in free time, but today I picked up a new black controller. I'm having a hard time trying to find TP6 or an equiv, so that I can add the thumb stick click.

We had issues with up/click on the thumbstick with llamas spots so I'm guessing the Tp6 location was the right spot.

If anyone could help me out with the pinout for left thumb click on one of these newer boards that would be great.

Heres a pic
http://pxn.ca/360cont_tp6.jpg
Thanks all for another great thread.

That board version is all traced out HERE. There isn't a nice TP spot for the LSC, so whatever you're going by sounds to be all wrong or for some other version of board. Also the Triggers on that version board there go high instead of low like on all of the other versions, so that needs to be looked out for versus whatever ya were doing before. Moving any of the buttons around to any other button is easy as it's all common ground.
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post Jul 7 2008, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(RDC @ Jul 2 2008, 11:06 PM) *

That really depends on the controller and version of it you're dealing with. There's no reason it can't be done, but without knowing what exactly you're working with there's a few ways you could go about it. If you've never messed with anything like that before ya may be in for a bigger mess than ya plan on too, but it's something that's perfectly doable.


Since everything I've read so far makes it seem that the new boards are harder to MOD, I'm going to try to get my hands on a wireless controller with the old board. Plus I think I've talked my son out of combining the Left Thumbstick Click and the Left Trigger into one button. Instead, I'm just going to make one button for the Left Thumbstick click and one for the Left Trigger. Do you know of a good push push button or latching push button that I could use?
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post Jul 8 2008, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE(MaddMulligan @ Jul 7 2008, 06:04 PM) *

Since everything I've read so far makes it seem that the new boards are harder to MOD, I'm going to try to get my hands on a wireless controller with the old board. Plus I think I've talked my son out of combining the Left Thumbstick Click and the Left Trigger into one button. Instead, I'm just going to make one button for the Left Thumbstick click and one for the Left Trigger. Do you know of a good push push button or latching push button that I could use?

With the original setup he wanted (LT + LSC) having either of the newer version boards would make the mod much, much easier and could be done as simply as using a DPDT switch. I'm sure there are some DPDT latching switches or push button ones that would work, though the insides of the controller are a tight fit for most alternate buttons/switches, just depends on what ya can find. If I were to do it there is a DPDT Toggle switch that I use that's small enough to stick in a good many places and is still DPDT, thing cost about $6 too but it's worth it.

This is just one example of where ya could mount the switch. As long as the switch is flipped it would be scoped in and breath held (about 5 seconds in game) until that time limit runs out and then it would stay scoped in but moving all over the place while the player catches their breath (about 7 seconds) and then it would go back to holding their breath again until the switch is turned off.

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post Jul 21 2008, 12:38 AM
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Um.... I clicked on the link to mouser.com and I still cant find the buttons I need. Can someone help me with a link. Thanks!!!
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post Jul 21 2008, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(QFC @ Jul 20 2008, 08:14 PM) *

Um.... I clicked on the link to mouser.com and I still cant find the buttons I need. Can someone help me with a link. Thanks!!!

You should try reading thru the thread then, there are 2 in post #236 and they both still work.
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say i wasn't actually going to use the normal buttons but i wanted to use the added buttons on the back of the controller, could i just scrape off the black on the buttons and solder a wire to each side and to a new button.
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QUOTE(sickels25 @ Aug 4 2008, 07:46 PM) *

say i wasn't actually going to use the normal buttons but i wanted to use the added buttons on the back of the controller, could i just scrape off the black on the buttons and solder a wire to each side and to a new button.

Yes that will work, cheesy, but it'll work. wink.gif
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Wat r the specifications for the buttons.


How come soldering to the black spots didnt work
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QUOTE(sickels25 @ Aug 4 2008, 11:30 PM) *

Wat r the specifications for the buttons.
How come soldering to the black spots didnt work

Any momentary SPST switch/button will work.

Solder doesn't stick to that coating of material, ya need to scrape it away and expose the copper trace underneath it and solder to that.
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I have gotten the A button to work but it is a different button, The buttons/switches have to be normally open right
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QUOTE(sickels25 @ Aug 5 2008, 07:56 PM) *

I have gotten the A button to work but it is a different button, The buttons/switches have to be normally open right

SPST, Momentary, N.O. (Normally Open)
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Hey RDC I'm the guy that did those 2 psp buttons on the back of the 360 controller a little while back. well when i was doing the d-pad mod i messed up the solder contact to the up d pad button im pretty sure i scraped down to far because the solder wouldn't stick. now the the up direcyion wont work and im just wondering if there is anyway to fix this? thanks again for you're time man.
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QUOTE(tense_lion @ Aug 5 2008, 10:06 PM) *

Hey RDC I'm the guy that did those 2 psp buttons on the back of the 360 controller a little while back. well when i was doing the d-pad mod i messed up the solder contact to the up d pad button im pretty sure i scraped down to far because the solder wouldn't stick. now the the up direcyion wont work and im just wondering if there is anyway to fix this? thanks again for you're time man.

Man, if that's the Matrix version board and ya forked up the one Via you'll hate the fix for that if you're trying to get the 360 D-pad functional again. Plus the fact there are much, much better places to attach the wires to on that board for something like that in the first place. I'd have to see the actual damage to tell ya what was what for sure though. If you're still installing the other D-pad and just after getting back on that line though ya have plenty of other options. wink.gif

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